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* Footnote Problem
@ 2011-11-15  5:57 Kip Warner
  2011-11-15  8:42 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-15  5:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hey folks,

The second \footnote doesn't show in the generated PDF. The number is
listed where it should at the end of the sentence, but the text of the
footnote is not listed at the bottom of the page.

\definestartstop
    [SomeDocument]
    [before={
        \crlf
        \setupbackground[frame=on,
                         before=\blank,
                         after=\blank,
                         corner=round,
                         topoffset=0.5cm,
                         leftoffset=0.5cm,
                         rightoffset=0.5cm,
                         bottomoffset=0.5cm]
        \startbackground
            },
     after={
        \stopbackground
        \crlf
           },
     commands={\setupalign[yes]},
     style=italic]

\starttext
First footnote.\footnote{This one works.}
\startSomeDocument
Second footnote.\footnote{This one doesn't.}
\stopSomeDocument
\stoptext

Thanks anyone.

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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-11-15  5:57 Footnote Problem Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-15  8:42 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2011-11-15 19:41   ` Kip Warner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-11-15  8:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 15.11.2011 um 06:57 schrieb Kip Warner:

> Hey folks,
> 
> The second \footnote doesn't show in the generated PDF. The number is
> listed where it should at the end of the sentence, but the text of the
> footnote is not listed at the bottom of the page.

Add \automigrateinserts to your document.

Wolfgang
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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-11-15  8:42 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-11-15 19:41   ` Kip Warner
       [not found]     ` <0C799196-A104-43E7-B59C-CBF82FB8169F@googlemail.com>
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From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-15 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 09:42 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 15.11.2011 um 06:57 schrieb Kip Warner:
> 
> > Hey folks,
> > 
> > The second \footnote doesn't show in the generated PDF. The number is
> > listed where it should at the end of the sentence, but the text of the
> > footnote is not listed at the bottom of the page.
> 
> Add \automigrateinserts to your document.
> 
> Wolfgang
> 

Thanks Wolfgang, but should that be in the environment file or can it go
anywhere?

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* Re: Footnote Problem
       [not found]     ` <0C799196-A104-43E7-B59C-CBF82FB8169F@googlemail.com>
@ 2011-11-26 23:38       ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-28  2:35       ` Kip Warner
  2011-12-21  5:33       ` Kip Warner
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-26 23:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 00:09 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 15.11.2011 um 20:41 schrieb Kip Warner:
> 
> > On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 09:42 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> >> Am 15.11.2011 um 06:57 schrieb Kip Warner:
> >> 
> >>> Hey folks,
> >>> 
> >>> The second \footnote doesn't show in the generated PDF. The number is
> >>> listed where it should at the end of the sentence, but the text of the
> >>> footnote is not listed at the bottom of the page.
> >> 
> >> Add \automigrateinserts to your document.
> >> 
> >> Wolfgang
> >> 
> > 
> > Thanks Wolfgang, but should that be in the environment file or can it go
> > anywhere?
> 
> Put it in the preamble of your document which can be a environment file or just before \starttext.
> 
> Wolfgang

Hey Wolfgang. The problem now is that the footnote sits inside of
textbackground boxes at the bottom of them. I'd like them instead at the
bottom of the page with the rest of my footnotes. How is this done?

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* Re: Footnote Problem
       [not found]     ` <0C799196-A104-43E7-B59C-CBF82FB8169F@googlemail.com>
  2011-11-26 23:38       ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-11-28  2:35       ` Kip Warner
  2011-12-21  5:33       ` Kip Warner
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kip Warner @ 2011-11-28  2:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Hans Hagen


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On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 00:09 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 15.11.2011 um 20:41 schrieb Kip Warner:
> 
> > On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 09:42 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> >> Am 15.11.2011 um 06:57 schrieb Kip Warner:
> >> 
> >>> Hey folks,
> >>> 
> >>> The second \footnote doesn't show in the generated PDF. The number is
> >>> listed where it should at the end of the sentence, but the text of the
> >>> footnote is not listed at the bottom of the page.
> >> 
> >> Add \automigrateinserts to your document.
> >> 
> >> Wolfgang
> >> 
> > 
> > Thanks Wolfgang, but should that be in the environment file or can it go
> > anywhere?
> 
> Put it in the preamble of your document which can be a environment file or just before \starttext.
> 
> Wolfgang

Hey Wolfgang. The problem now is that the footnote sits inside of
textbackground boxes at the bottom of them. I'd like them instead at
the bottom of the page with the rest of my footnotes. How is this done?
Sorry to pester you, but you and Hans seem to be the ConTeXt gurus.

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* Re: Footnote Problem
       [not found]     ` <0C799196-A104-43E7-B59C-CBF82FB8169F@googlemail.com>
  2011-11-26 23:38       ` Kip Warner
  2011-11-28  2:35       ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-12-21  5:33       ` Kip Warner
  2011-12-21  8:39         ` Hans Hagen
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kip Warner @ 2011-12-21  5:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Hans Hagen


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On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 00:09 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Am 15.11.2011 um 20:41 schrieb Kip Warner:
> 
> > On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 09:42 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> >> Am 15.11.2011 um 06:57 schrieb Kip Warner:
> >> 
> >>> Hey folks,
> >>> 
> >>> The second \footnote doesn't show in the generated PDF. The number is
> >>> listed where it should at the end of the sentence, but the text of the
> >>> footnote is not listed at the bottom of the page.
> >> 
> >> Add \automigrateinserts to your document.
> >> 
> >> Wolfgang
> >> 
> > 
> > Thanks Wolfgang, but should that be in the environment file or can it go
> > anywhere?
> 
> Put it in the preamble of your document which can be a environment file or just before \starttext.
> 
> Wolfgang

Hey Wolfgang. The problem now is that the footnote sits inside of
textbackground boxes at the bottom of them. I'd like them instead at
the bottom of the page with the rest of my footnotes. How is this done?
Sorry to pester you, but you and Hans seem to be the ConTeXt gurus.

-- 
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OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred
http://www.thevertigo.com

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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-12-21  5:33       ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-12-21  8:39         ` Hans Hagen
  2011-12-22  1:16           ` Kip Warner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-12-21  8:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 21-12-2011 06:33, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 00:09 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Am 15.11.2011 um 20:41 schrieb Kip Warner:
>>
>>> On Tue, 2011-11-15 at 09:42 +0100, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>>> Am 15.11.2011 um 06:57 schrieb Kip Warner:
>>>>
>>>>> Hey folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> The second \footnote doesn't show in the generated PDF. The number is
>>>>> listed where it should at the end of the sentence, but the text of the
>>>>> footnote is not listed at the bottom of the page.
>>>>
>>>> Add \automigrateinserts to your document.
>>>>
>>>> Wolfgang
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Wolfgang, but should that be in the environment file or can it go
>>> anywhere?
>>
>> Put it in the preamble of your document which can be a environment file or just before \starttext.
>>
>> Wolfgang
>
> Hey Wolfgang. The problem now is that the footnote sits inside of
> textbackground boxes at the bottom of them. I'd like them instead at
> the bottom of the page with the rest of my footnotes. How is this done?
> Sorry to pester you, but you and Hans seem to be the ConTeXt gurus.

you can play with

\setconstant\kindofpagetextareas\plusone

(some day there will be a proper setting)

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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-12-21  8:39         ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-12-22  1:16           ` Kip Warner
  2011-12-22  8:24             ` Hans Hagen
  2011-12-22  8:29             ` Wolfgang Schuster
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kip Warner @ 2011-12-22  1:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 09:39 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> you can play with
> 
> \setconstant\kindofpagetextareas\plusone
> 
> (some day there will be a proper setting) 

Thanks Hans, but I get the following error:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.19 \setconstant
                 \kindofpagetextareas\plusone
? 


Using ConTeXt  ver: 2011.11.29 18:47 MKIV  fmt: 2011.12.21.

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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-12-22  1:16           ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-12-22  8:24             ` Hans Hagen
  2011-12-22 23:49               ` Kip Warner
  2011-12-22  8:29             ` Wolfgang Schuster
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-12-22  8:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 22-12-2011 02:16, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 09:39 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>> you can play with
>>
>> \setconstant\kindofpagetextareas\plusone
>>
>> (some day there will be a proper setting)
>
> Thanks Hans, but I get the following error:
>
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.19 \setconstant
>                   \kindofpagetextareas\plusone
use just

\kindofpagetextareas\plusone

as the constant is already defined.

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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-12-22  1:16           ` Kip Warner
  2011-12-22  8:24             ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-12-22  8:29             ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2011-12-22  8:33               ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2011-12-22  8:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: Hans Hagen


Am 22.12.2011 um 02:16 schrieb Kip Warner:

> On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 09:39 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> 
>> you can play with
>> 
>> \setconstant\kindofpagetextareas\plusone
>> 
>> (some day there will be a proper setting) 
> 
> Thanks Hans, but I get the following error:
> 
> ! Undefined control sequence.
> l.19 \setconstant
>                 \kindofpagetextareas\plusone
> ? 

It’s only \kindofpagetextareas\plusone without \setconstant.

Wolfgang
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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-12-22  8:29             ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2011-12-22  8:33               ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-12-22  8:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 22-12-2011 09:29, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
> Am 22.12.2011 um 02:16 schrieb Kip Warner:
>
>> On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 09:39 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>>
>>> you can play with
>>>
>>> \setconstant\kindofpagetextareas\plusone
>>>
>>> (some day there will be a proper setting)
>>
>> Thanks Hans, but I get the following error:
>>
>> ! Undefined control sequence.
>> l.19 \setconstant
>>                  \kindofpagetextareas\plusone
>> ?
>
> It’s only \kindofpagetextareas\plusone without \setconstant.

I've added \setconstant as dummy (no checkign for being defined but it 
looks nicer in code).

Hans


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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-12-22  8:24             ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-12-22 23:49               ` Kip Warner
  2011-12-23 11:08                 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Kip Warner @ 2011-12-22 23:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 09:24 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> use just
> 
> \kindofpagetextareas\plusone
> 
> as the constant is already defined. 

Thanks Hans. It works. Because I don't like to just copy and paste code
without understanding it, could you try to run an explanation by me?

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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-12-22 23:49               ` Kip Warner
@ 2011-12-23 11:08                 ` Hans Hagen
  2011-12-23 23:50                   ` Kip Warner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 14+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2011-12-23 11:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kip Warner; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On 23-12-2011 00:49, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 09:24 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
>> use just
>>
>> \kindofpagetextareas\plusone
>>
>> as the constant is already defined.
>
> Thanks Hans. It works. Because I don't like to just copy and paste code
> without understanding it, could you try to run an explanation by me?

Methods 0-3 treat inserts (graphics and footnotes) differently, so best 
just try all these alternatives with your example file and see if it 
works out ok.

Hans

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* Re: Footnote Problem
  2011-12-23 11:08                 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2011-12-23 23:50                   ` Kip Warner
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From: Kip Warner @ 2011-12-23 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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On Fri, 2011-12-23 at 12:08 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> Methods 0-3 treat inserts (graphics and footnotes) differently, so
> best 
> just try all these alternatives with your example file and see if it 
> works out ok. 

Well, it works, so thanks anyways.

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2011-12-21  5:33       ` Kip Warner
2011-12-21  8:39         ` Hans Hagen
2011-12-22  1:16           ` Kip Warner
2011-12-22  8:24             ` Hans Hagen
2011-12-22 23:49               ` Kip Warner
2011-12-23 11:08                 ` Hans Hagen
2011-12-23 23:50                   ` Kip Warner
2011-12-22  8:29             ` Wolfgang Schuster
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