TextBackground text area

TextBackground text area

[Kip Warner]

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Hey folks,

I've been pulling my hair out for hours, as I can't seem to figure out
how to set the margin with and height for a textbackground area so the
text doesn't start immediately at the left frame line and go to the
right frame line. I am using this:

\definetextbackground[FramedText][
        location=paragraph,
        color=color_text,
        background=color,
        backgroundcolor=colour_page,
        framecolor=colour_text,
        leftoffset=1.0\bodyfontsize,
        rightoffset=1.0\bodyfontsize,
        before={
            \blank
            \startnarrower
        },
        after={
            \blank
            \stopnarrower
        },
        style=italic,
        corner=round,
        frame=on]

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Re: TextBackground text area

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011, Kip Warner wrote:

> I've been pulling my hair out for hours, as I can't seem to figure out
> how to set the margin with and height for a textbackground area so the
> text doesn't start immediately at the left frame line and go to the
> right frame line. I am using this:
>
> \definetextbackground[FramedText][
>        location=paragraph,
>        color=color_text,
>        background=color,
>        backgroundcolor=colour_page,
>        framecolor=colour_text,
>        leftoffset=1.0\bodyfontsize,
>        rightoffset=1.0\bodyfontsize,
>        before={
>            \blank
>            \startnarrower
>        },
>        after={
>            \blank
>            \stopnarrower
>        },
>        style=italic,
>        corner=round,
>        frame=on]
>

Why not just increase the value of leftoffset and rightoffset?

\definetextbackground[FramedText][
         location=paragraph,
         color=black,
         background=color,
         backgroundcolor=blue:2,
         framecolor=green:2,
         leftoffset=1cm,
         rightoffset=1cm,
         style=italic,
         corner=round,
         frame=on]

\starttext

\startFramedText
\input knuth \endgraf
\stopFramedText

\stoptext

Aditya
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Re: TextBackground text area

[Kip Warner]

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On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 21:52 -0500, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Why not just increase the value of leftoffset and rightoffset?

Because then the text is fine on the left side, but then goes past the
right frame border.

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Re: TextBackground text area

[Kip Warner]

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On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 21:52 -0500, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Why not just increase the value of leftoffset and rightoffset?

This seems to work, but I find a problem is that if the text box spans
multiple pages, bottomoffset / topoffset are ignored at the points where
the page breaks. Suggestions?

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Re: TextBackground text area

[Kip Warner]

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On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 21:52 -0500, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Why not just increase the value of leftoffset and rightoffset?

This seems to work, but I find a problem is that if the text box spans
multiple pages, bottomoffset / topoffset are ignored at the points where
the page breaks. Suggestions?

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TextBackground bottomoffset / topoffset

[Kip Warner]

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Hey list,

I am using the following to typeset a text box containing text.

\definetextbackground[GeneralDocument][
        location=paragraph,
        color=color_text,
        background=color,
        backgroundcolor=colour_page,
        framecolor=colour_text,
        topoffset=1.0cm,
        bottomoffset=1.0cm,
        leftoffset=1.0cm,
        rightoffset=1.0cm,
        before={
            \blank[2*big]
        },
        after={
            \blank[2*big]
        },
        style=small,
        corner=round,
        frame=on]

This seems to work, but I find a problem is that if the text box spans
multiple pages, bottomoffset / topoffset are ignored at the points where
the page breaks. Suggestions?

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Still Problems With TextBackground bottomoffset / topoffset

[Kip Warner]

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Hey Hans, Aditya, and Wolfgang,

You gentlemen seem to be very knowledgeable with ConTeXt, so I will run
a question by you that has been plaguing me for months. I am using the
following to typeset a text box containing text.

\definetextbackground[GeneralDocument][
        location=paragraph,
        color=color_text,
        background=color,
        backgroundcolor=colour_page,
        framecolor=colour_text,
        topoffset=1.0cm,
        bottomoffset=1.0cm,
        leftoffset=1.0cm,
        rightoffset=1.0cm,
        before={
            \blank[2*big]
        },
        after={
            \blank[2*big]
        },
        style=small,
        corner=round,
        frame=on]

This works fine, but I still have a problem if the text box spans
multiple pages because bottomoffset / topoffset seem to be ignored at
the points where the page breaks. The text just goes right to the edge
of the page top or bottom without any whitespace. 

Any ideas?

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Re: Still Problems With TextBackground bottomoffset / topoffset

[luigi scarso]

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On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Kip Warner <kip@thevertigo.com> wrote:

> Hey Hans, Aditya, and Wolfgang,
>
> You gentlemen seem to be very knowledgeable with ConTeXt,

Yes, at least Hans.
IIRC he  is the *only* author of ConTeXt.

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Re: Still Problems With TextBackground bottomoffset / topoffset

[Hans Hagen]

On 31-1-2012 08:24, luigi scarso wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Kip Warner<kip@thevertigo.com>  wrote:
>
>> Hey Hans, Aditya, and Wolfgang,
>>
>> You gentlemen seem to be very knowledgeable with ConTeXt,
>
> Yes, at least Hans.
> IIRC he  is the *only* author of ConTeXt.

well but sometimes others beat me in knowledge about the internals -)


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Re: Still Problems With TextBackground bottomoffset / topoffset

[Kip Warner]

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On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 09:50 +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> well but sometimes others beat me in knowledge about the internals -)

Great, but can either of you help with the question? =)

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Re: Still Problems With TextBackground bottomoffset / topoffset

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Kip Warner wrote:

> Hey Hans, Aditya, and Wolfgang,
>
> You gentlemen seem to be very knowledgeable with ConTeXt, so I will run
> a question by you that has been plaguing me for months. I am using the
> following to typeset a text box containing text.
>
> \definetextbackground[GeneralDocument][
>        location=paragraph,
>        color=color_text,
>        background=color,
>        backgroundcolor=colour_page,
>        framecolor=colour_text,
>        topoffset=1.0cm,
>        bottomoffset=1.0cm,
>        leftoffset=1.0cm,
>        rightoffset=1.0cm,
>        before={
>            \blank[2*big]
>        },
>        after={
>            \blank[2*big]
>        },
>        style=small,
>        corner=round,
>        frame=on]
>
> This works fine, but I still have a problem if the text box spans
> multiple pages because bottomoffset / topoffset seem to be ignored at
> the points where the page breaks. The text just goes right to the edge
> of the page top or bottom without any whitespace.

Do you have to use textbackground (assuming, of course, that you are using 
MkIV)? Regular backgrounds take care of top and bottom offsets:

\definebackground
   [whatever]
   [topoffset=1cm,
    bottomoffset=1cm,
    frame=on]

\starttext
\input ward
\startwhatever
   \dorecurse{6}{\input knuth \endgraf}
\stopwhatever
\input ward
\stoptext

The main advantage of textbackground is that they adapt to pararagraph 
shapes (if you use things like \startplacefigure[location=left] ... 
\stopplacefigure), and can be nested.

Aditya
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Re: Still Problems With TextBackground bottomoffset / topoffset

[Kip Warner]

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On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 19:25 -0500, Aditya Mahajan wrote:
> Do you have to use textbackground (assuming, of course, that you are using 
> MkIV)? 

I think so. I can't remember why, but someone on the list probably made
a compelling argument for its use.

> The main advantage of textbackground is that they adapt to pararagraph 
> shapes (if you use things like \startplacefigure[location=left] ... 
> \stopplacefigure), and can be nested.

Yes, which I may require from time to time. Why doesn't the bottomoffset
and topoffset variables do anything in a textbackground?

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Re: Still Problems With TextBackground bottomoffset / topoffset

[Kip Warner]

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On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 01:15 +0100, luigi scarso wrote:
> Do you have  a small complete example ?

Sure:

\definetextbackground[GeneralDocument][
        location=paragraph,
        topoffset=1.0cm,
        bottomoffset=1.0cm,
        leftoffset=1.0cm,
        rightoffset=1.0cm,
        before={
            \blank[2*big]
        },
        after={
            \blank[2*big]
        },
        style=small,
        corner=round,
        frame=on]

\starttext
This is some text outside of a text background.

\startGeneralDocument
\dorecurse{10}{\input tufte \par \input knuth \par}
\stopGeneralDocument

This is more text outside of a text background.
\stoptext


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