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Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:06:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2D9F7C73-C362-485E-BC3A-B9FB7381AE9A@frycomm.com> X-Mailer: Evolution 2.32.1 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0015 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=208.113.200.5; country=US; region=CA; city=Brea; postalcode=92821; latitude=33.9269; longitude=-117.8612; metrocode=803; areacode=714; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=33.9269,-117.8612&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0UGDU71c0 - e005ca821833 - 20120229 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:74797 Archived-At: --===============2027249763== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-bfQjF5TX/gU06P8Nz17x" --=-bfQjF5TX/gU06P8Nz17x Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 11:29 -0500, William Adams wrote: > With a graphical tool, one is limited to the automation which the develop= ers are willing to build into the tool and sentenced to handling manually _= everything_ else, _every_ time that there's a change, e.g., if you have a k= eyword block on your opening article pages aligned against the outside gutt= er and the layout program can't place it automatically and contextually, th= en _every_ time the article changes from opening to a left to a right or vi= ce-versa one has to make that change manually. >=20 > I wrote up a longer comparison once upon a time --- Scribus isn't that mu= ch different from InDesign and Quark, so the criticism holds: >=20 > While I'm no TeX wizard, I prefer it because it allows one to off-load > some of the tedium and repetitiveness to the computer, as opposed to > repeatedly solving variations of the same problems by hand time after > time after time. >=20 > So, Superb coverage Will and I appreciate the philosophical approach. I think Hans et al should maybe consider adding your description to the wiki somewhere suitable. --=20 Kip Warner -- Software Engineer OpenPGP encrypted/signed mail preferred http://www.thevertigo.com --=-bfQjF5TX/gU06P8Nz17x Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk9OhWAACgkQLXnfK7bii232XACdGJuQneLXhT4U4J+sUvQPeEHB gy4AnRmAaKEJrIRo2iylr1ybCaGo/VAL =IsQm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-bfQjF5TX/gU06P8Nz17x-- --===============2027249763== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============2027249763==--