[NTG-context] genealogy tree

[NTG-context] genealogy tree

[Thomas Meyer]

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Hi folks,

is it possible to build a complex pedigree\genealogy tree with ConTeXt, 
like in LaTeX with genealogytree?
Or what possibilities are there?

Greetings
Thomas

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[NTG-context] Re: genealogy tree

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 09.12.24 um 13:35 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
> is it possible to build a complex pedigree\genealogy tree with ConTeXt, 
> like in LaTeX with genealogytree?
> Or what possibilities are there?

There’s nothing ready-made (AFAIK, yet).
You can try to use the old "charts" module (see charts-mkiv.pdf) or the 
mighty "nodes" module (see nodes.pdf).
You will probably need to dive into MetaPost.


At FrOSCon 2023 someone came to the DANTE booth and asked for a way to 
use GEDCOM genealogy data, since GRAMPS’ diagrams are ugly. We found 
LaTeX’s genealogytree package plus a converter was a good fit.
https://ctan.org/pkg/genealogytree
https://github.com/torfsen/gedcom2gtr

For someone fluent in MetaFun and Lua and knowing ConTeXt’s XML features 
it would be probably not a very big deal to make something usable… Not 
me (besides lack of skills, also only marginally interested in genealogy).

Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: genealogy tree

[Keith McKay]

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Gramps has an add-on which outputs:

"A group of 5 Tree reports that use LaTeX genealogytree (the Pedigree 
and genealogical tree diagrams package) to create professional looking 
trees for the active person. Four report are available.*Requires: 
texlive/texlive-pictures and texlive-fontsextra"*

See, https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php?title=5.1_Addons

and, https://gramps-project.org/wiki/index.php/Addon:GenealogyTree

I use GRAMPS with this add-on and it works very well. All my ancestors 
(and skeletons in the cupboard) are in the GRAMPS data base from which I 
can output a tree report in a form that LaTeX can compile i.e 
genealogytree. I usually have to do minor edits to the LaTeX file but 
this is much easier than using genealogytree on it's own. It would be 
nice to have a ConTeXt version but, like Hraban this is above my skill set.

Best Wishes

Keith McKay

On 09/12/2024 13:11, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
> Am 09.12.24 um 13:35 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>> is it possible to build a complex pedigree\genealogy tree with 
>> ConTeXt, like in LaTeX with genealogytree?
>> Or what possibilities are there?
>
> There’s nothing ready-made (AFAIK, yet).
> You can try to use the old "charts" module (see charts-mkiv.pdf) or 
> the mighty "nodes" module (see nodes.pdf).
> You will probably need to dive into MetaPost.
>
>
> At FrOSCon 2023 someone came to the DANTE booth and asked for a way to 
> use GEDCOM genealogy data, since GRAMPS’ diagrams are ugly. We found 
> LaTeX’s genealogytree package plus a converter was a good fit.
> https://ctan.org/pkg/genealogytree
> https://github.com/torfsen/gedcom2gtr
>
> For someone fluent in MetaFun and Lua and knowing ConTeXt’s XML 
> features it would be probably not a very big deal to make something 
> usable… Not me (besides lack of skills, also only marginally 
> interested in genealogy).
>
> Hraban
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[NTG-context] Re: genealogy tree

[Jan Tosovsky]

On 2024-12-09 Thomas Meyer wrote:
> 
> is it possible to build a complex pedigree\genealogy tree with 
> ConTeXt, like in LaTeX with genealogytree?
> Or what possibilities are there?

I am not sure a TeX-based solution is so handy here. Here are a few alternatives:

(1) For simple ancestor/pedigree/hourglass trees, you can enter your data into the free MyHeritage Family Tree Builder (FTB) desktop app and utilize many OOTB templates. 
(2) You can also try visual genealogy tools like GenoPro and print directly what you see.
(3) Consider sharing an online tree instead, it is always up-to-date: 
     (3a) Once you have data in FTB, you can easily upload it to the MyHeritage cloud. It is free for up to 250 individuals. 
     (3b) You can consider the FamilySearch tree, it is free without limits, with handy features like linking individuals to scanned church records, however, it is not easy to pull data from it later on, e.g. to create tailored family charts.

Jan


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[NTG-context] Re: genealogy tree

[Thomas Meyer]

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Thanks Hraban, Keith and Jan for your comments.
I will see what I can work with. I may have to continue working directly 
with genealogytree under LaTeX.
Kind regards

Thomas


Am 09.12.24 um 14:11 schrieb Henning Hraban Ramm:
> Am 09.12.24 um 13:35 schrieb Thomas Meyer:
>> is it possible to build a complex pedigree\genealogy tree with 
>> ConTeXt, like in LaTeX with genealogytree?
>> Or what possibilities are there?
>
> There’s nothing ready-made (AFAIK, yet).
> You can try to use the old "charts" module (see charts-mkiv.pdf) or 
> the mighty "nodes" module (see nodes.pdf).
> You will probably need to dive into MetaPost.
>
>
> At FrOSCon 2023 someone came to the DANTE booth and asked for a way to 
> use GEDCOM genealogy data, since GRAMPS’ diagrams are ugly. We found 
> LaTeX’s genealogytree package plus a converter was a good fit.
> https://ctan.org/pkg/genealogytree
> https://github.com/torfsen/gedcom2gtr
>
> For someone fluent in MetaFun and Lua and knowing ConTeXt’s XML 
> features it would be probably not a very big deal to make something 
> usable… Not me (besides lack of skills, also only marginally 
> interested in genealogy).
>
> Hraban
> ___________________________________________________________________________________ 
>
> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry 
> to the Wiki!
>
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>

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