Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Kip Warner]

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Hey Hans, Wolfgang, et al,

The nightly for 2012.07.10 appears to be broken. When attempting to
compile my book, I get the following.

! Argument of \PlaceSection has an extra }.
<inserted text> 
                \par 
<to be read again> 
                   }
\strc_rendering_inject_text ...ameter \c!command }
                                                  \ifx \p_command \empty
\di...
\strc_rendering_place_head_text ...ng_inject_text 
                                                  }\fi
\strc_rendering_stop_...
\strc_sectioning_handle ...dering_place_head_text 

\strc_sectioning_after_yes...
l.8     \title{Contents at a Glance}
                                    
E
? You want to edit file Makeup/Table_of_Contents.tex at line 8

<https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~avaneya/avaneya/trunk/view/head:/Documentation/Contributors/Handbook/Makeup/Table_of_Contents.tex>

This is just a piece of advice from one programmer to another, but it
might be useful if you use some kind of unit testing framework with
ConTeXt since most of the nightlies it seems are usually broken for
somebody. You just need some test cases, e.g. people's documents that
draw on as many features as possible.

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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Alan BRASLAU]

The subject of this ongoing string is not very informative
and indeed slightly unpleasant considering the efforts that
many contributors make towards the development of ConTeXt.

The present message is not intended to start any sort of debate;
it only represents a reaction to a latent feeling that I have
for some time now...

Alan
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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 13.07.2012 um 00:09 schrieb Kip Warner:

> Hey Hans, Wolfgang, et al,
> 
> The nightly for 2012.07.10 appears to be broken. When attempting to
> compile my book, I get the following.

Use

\define[2]\PlaceSection
  {…}

or

\unexpanded\def\PlaceSection#1#2%
  {…}

in your environment file.

Wolfgang
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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Hans Hagen]

On 13-7-2012 00:09, Kip Warner wrote:

> This is just a piece of advice from one programmer to another, but it
> might be useful if you use some kind of unit testing framework with
> ConTeXt since most of the nightlies it seems are usually broken for
> somebody. You just need some test cases, e.g. people's documents that
> draw on as many features as possible.

feel free to do the testing .. (there is an achive with test files but i 
have no time to run/check it each time)

concerning 'broken' ... that's what you have with betas ... most recent 
changes concern reshuffling code, better namespace protection, cleanup 
and speedup, etc, all part of the mkii -> mkiv move

the problem reported by you (as wolfgang already pointed out) relates to 
the fact that (from now on) such commands have to be defined 
unexpandable (due to a different way of checking them) .. also, some of 
these 'command' options will be (or are already) replaced by setups

Hans

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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[luigi scarso]

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On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 13-7-2012 00:09, Kip Warner wrote:
>
>  This is just a piece of advice from one programmer to another, but it
>> might be useful if you use some kind of unit testing framework with
>> ConTeXt since most of the nightlies it seems are usually broken for
>> somebody. You just need some test cases, e.g. people's documents that
>> draw on as many features as possible.
>>
>
> feel free to do the testing .. (there is an achive with test files but i
> have no time to run/check it each time)
>
> http://standalone.contextgarden.net/current/context/test/

and with rsync
rsync -avz rsync://contextgarden.net/standalone/current/context/test .


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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Kip Warner]

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On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 09:16 +0200, Alan BRASLAU wrote:
> The subject of this ongoing string is not very informative
> and indeed slightly unpleasant considering the efforts that
> many contributors make towards the development of ConTeXt.
> 
> The present message is not intended to start any sort of debate;
> it only represents a reaction to a latent feeling that I have
> for some time now...
> 
> Alan

Hey Alan. I'm not sure what you mean. If you thought my post came off
poorly, I think you misunderstood. I wasn't criticizing anyone. I was
just pointing out that a recent nightly was broken. That happens all the
time - including with my own projects. It isn't personal.

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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Kip Warner]

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On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 09:49 +0200, luigi scarso wrote:
> and with rsync
> rsync -avz rsync://contextgarden.net/standalone/current/context/test .

Thanks Luigi. I actually do test every new nightly and have been for
several months now.

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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Kip Warner]

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On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 09:42 +0200, Hans Hagen wrote:
> feel free to do the testing .. (there is an achive with test files but i 
> have no time to run/check it each time)

I do test. I test every nightly that I can. My book is useful for that
because it draws on a lot of frequently fragile features.

> concerning 'broken' ... that's what you have with betas ... most recent 
> changes concern reshuffling code, better namespace protection, cleanup 
> and speedup, etc, all part of the mkii -> mkiv move

Ah I see.

> the problem reported by you (as wolfgang already pointed out) relates to 
> the fact that (from now on) such commands have to be defined 
> unexpandable (due to a different way of checking them) .. also, some of 
> these 'command' options will be (or are already) replaced by setups

Sorry, I'm a little lost. Are you referring to within the ConTeXt source
or do you mean that users need to modify their typesetting commands they
are using for their documents?

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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Kip Warner]

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On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 09:22 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Use
> 
> \define[2]\PlaceSection
>   {}
> 
> or
> 
> \unexpanded\def\PlaceSection#1#2%
>   {}
> 
> in your environment file.
> 
> Wolfgang

Thanks Wolfgang. As usual, your magic worked. =)

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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Martin Bruchanov]

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On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:45:46PM -0700, Kip Warner wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-07-13 at 09:22 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> > Use
> > 
> > \define[2]\PlaceSection
> >   {}
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > \unexpanded\def\PlaceSection#1#2%
> >   {}
> > 
> > in your environment file.
> > 
> > Wolfgang
> 
> Thanks Wolfgang. As usual, your magic worked. =)

Thanks, I have not used \define or \unexpanded\def in my definitions
of macros too, so I  found this problem in my project too... 

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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Hans Hagen]

On 16-7-2012 07:32, Kip Warner wrote:

> Sorry, I'm a little lost. Are you referring to within the ConTeXt source
> or do you mean that users need to modify their typesetting commands they
> are using for their documents?

only the occasional ones that hook into 'command=' ... they'd best be 
\unexpanded\def's

Hans


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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 16.07.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> On 16-7-2012 07:32, Kip Warner wrote:
> 
>> Sorry, I'm a little lost. Are you referring to within the ConTeXt source
>> or do you mean that users need to modify their typesetting commands they
>> are using for their documents?
> 
> only the occasional ones that hook into 'command=' ... they'd best be \unexpanded\def's

Or

  \define[<number>]\somecommand

which creates also a protected command.

Wolfgang
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Re: Broken Nightly (2012.07.10)

[Kip Warner]

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On Mon, 2012-07-16 at 18:00 +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Or
> 
>   \define[<number>]\somecommand
> 
> which creates also a protected command. 

Right. Thanks.

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