Footnotes and endnotes

Footnotes and endnotes

[Axel Kielhorn]

Hello,

I have some problems with footnotes and endnotes.

I have two kinds of footnotes:
Those by the original author and those by the translator.

I want to show the translator notes in a different way.
Right now I have the footnote in green, but the footnote marker in the text does change neither font nor color?
Shouldn’t the marker be green and bold?
Setting numberconversion works, but the other options seem to be without effect.

I want to include longer note as endnotes.
I can change the marker shown with the notes to (1) but he marker in the text does not change.
Thus you can’t distinguish between a footnote and an endnote.

I tried a footnote within a footnote, that didn’t work, should it?
(I don’t actually need this, I was just curious.)

When I define commentnote based on endnote I get the same numbering.
How can I either
- use different counters for both kind of notes or
- print both notes with the same placenotes command, in the right order?

Greetings
Axel

\starttext

\definenote[authornote][footnote]      
  \setupnotation[authornote]      [style=bold]
\definenote[translaternote][rule=off]  
  \setupnotation[translaternote]  [headstyle=bold, numberconversion=a, headcolor=green, style=bolditalic, color=green]
  % No color for the footnotemark?
\definenote[translaterpnote][rule=off] 
  \setupnotation[translaterpnote] [way=bypage, numberconversion=set 2,headstyle=bold]
\definenote[commentnote][endnote]      
  \setupnotation[commentnote]     [color=red,left={(},right={)}]
  % How to style the footnotemark in the text?
  \setupnotation[endnote]     [left={(},right={)}]

\startsection[
  reference=fußnoten,
  title={Fußnoten}
  ]
\index{Fußnoten}

\input ward\footnote{Eine normale Fußnote. Mit etwas Text, damit die Seite voll wird. \input ward}

\input ward\translaternote{Eine Fußnote des Übersetzters}
\commentnote{Mehr Informationen gibt es in den Endnoten am Ende des Kapitels.}

\input ward\translaterpnote{Alternativ kann man die Übersetzernoten auch seitenweise nummerieren.
Zur Unterscheidung von normalen Fußnoten hier mit Zeichen statt Zahlen.}

\input ward\footnote{Was ist mit Fußnoten in Fußnoten?\footnote{Das geht natürlich auch.}} % Why not?

\input ward\endnote{Eine normale Endnote, ohne spezielle Formatierung. Man kann sie nicht von einer Fußnote unterscheiden.} 

\input ward\translaterpnote{Die zweite Fußnote auf der Seite.} 


\startsubsection[title={Endnoten}]

\placenotes[endnote]

\placenotes[commentnote]

\stopsubsection

\stopsection

\stoptext

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Re: Footnotes and endnotes

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 11/17/18 1:51 PM, Axel Kielhorn wrote:
> Hello,

Hi Axel,

> I want to show the translator notes in a different way. Right now I
> have the footnote in green, but the footnote marker in the text does
> change neither font nor color?> Shouldn’t the marker be green and
> bold? Setting numberconversion works, but the other options seem to
> be without effect.

    \setupnote[translaternote][textstyle=\bf, textcolor=green]

> I want to include longer notes as endnotes. I can change the marker
> shown with the notes to (1) but he marker in the text does not
> change. Thus you can’t distinguish between a footnote and an
> endnote.

As far as I know, left and right arent’t options in \setupnote.

> I tried a footnote within a footnote, that didn’t work, should it? (I
> don’t actually need this, I was just curious.)

They don’t work (I wonder what might they be useful for). But Hans or
Wolfgang know better.

> When I define commentnote based on endnote I get the same numbering. 
> How can I either - use different counters for both kind of notes or

I guess you have to avoid defining commentnote based on endnote.

You may always do the following:

    \setupnotation
        [authornote, endnote, commentnote, footnote, translaterpnote]
        [style=bold]

> - print both notes with the same placenotes command, in the right
> order?

Then, place the notes in the right order. But in that case, only using
one kind of notes may be less problematic.

I hope it helps,

Pablo
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Re: Footnotes and endnotes

[Axel Kielhorn]

> Am 17.11.2018 um 15:43 schrieb Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es>:
> 
> On 11/17/18 1:51 PM, Axel Kielhorn wrote:
>> Hello,
> 
> Hi Axel,
> 
>> I want to show the translator notes in a different way. Right now I
>> have the footnote in green, but the footnote marker in the text does
>> change neither font nor color?> Shouldn’t the marker be green and
>> bold? Setting numberconversion works, but the other options seem to
>> be without effect.
> 
>    \setupnote[translaternote][textstyle=\bf, textcolor=green]

With this information I found:

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Unexpected_behavior#Footnotes:_The_Difference_between_.5Csetupnotation_and_.5Csetupnote

The headcolor in \setupnotation is actually the color of the marker in the note
while the maker in the text is defined with \setupnote.

I guess I have to request edit rights for the garden.
DONE

> 
>> I want to include longer notes as endnotes. I can change the marker
>> shown with the notes to (1) but he marker in the text does not
>> change. Thus you can’t distinguish between a footnote and an
>> endnote.
> 
> As far as I know, left and right arent’t options in \setupnote.

The page mentioned above offers the following solution:

\definenote[commentnote][endnote]      
  \setupnotation[commentnote]     [color=red,left={(},right={)}]
  \setupnote [commentnote] [textcommand=\mycommentcommand]
    \define[1]\mycommentcommand{\high{\tfxx(#1)}}

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.

Axel

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