Re: <ATTN task force> LaTeX's T1 encoding / LaTeX PS fonts

[Taco Hoekwater <taco.hoekwater@wkap.nl>]

>>>>> "HH" == Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:

 HH> Erik Frambach wrote:
 >> Until now always had problems with Times: first ConTeXt seems to
 >> insist on using tir.tfm, etc., then I get problems with either
 >> missing accents or funny

 HH> Hm. One can use filemapping to use other names, so it is under
 HH> your control. Currently the method is:

...

The important thing about this patch is/was the enco-ec.tex
file. After Hans & I have sorted out a few minor glitches, it will
move into the core distrib.

Perhaps we should do one for (each of the) (silly, because they are
all slighly different from eachother) 7-bit tex text encodings as
well, getting rid of the hardcoded plain stuff alltogether

 >> But never everything correct at the same time.

 HH> This is an encoding issue and related to the previous. We use
 HH> times a lot (tir files) and never had those problems, but I think
 HH> your problem could have been due to missing texnansi tfm
 HH> files. Taco once suggested to set up an archive for this (if only

Probably caused by the fact that there were other,older versions of
tir.tfm that were not re-encoded at all but 'raw': using
AdobeStandardEncoding, which is nearly useless for typesetting.

 HH> because texnansi is a rather good encoding).  One reason for
 HH> using the tir ones is (was) that I dislike those (sometimes even)
 HH> changing berry names, and prefer originals.  It's also the reason
 HH> why I have my own mapping files (taco, should we also provide a
 HH> map file?).

Not for this berry stuff, that is part of any standard tex distrib.
And since you & me are probably the only people that use and have the
texnansi tfms, I don't see a real reason yet. If and when we create a
distribution for texnansi tfms, we definately should. But I am not in
a hurry to do that...

 >> Maybe I'm stupid, but anyway I for one am VERY happy to see that
 >> this new method actually WORKS for me.

 HH> Good to hear that!

 HH> Since the names in font-ber change now, we must make sure we make
 HH> the right choices once and for all (that is: taco makes the
 HH> choices -). 

This is why I asked for the names for the other fonts. At least the
base35 (but preferably all of the PS3 ones) should be in there and
correctly named. But I no longer have those files (trying to cut down
hd space), so I depend on other people to tell me what they are called
(the proper psnfss name for the 8t encoded version, that is).

 HH> Some time ago I got some baskerville fonts needed to
 HH> typeset some UKTUG stuff, and ended up with 5 subdir with 5 sets
 HH> of tfm files and I never could sort out which one to use,
 HH> especially because the names in the map files were yet another
 HH> set.

Isnt life fun?

Taco