From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from cgl.ntg.nl (Cgl.ntg.nl [5.39.185.202]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E783D217F5 for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:54:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B10B484A8A for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:54:33 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Authentication-Results: cgl.ntg.nl (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (2048-bit key) reason="fail (message has been altered)" header.d=yahoo.com Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id czoe29BlqRvD for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:54:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from cgl.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D074846C0 for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:54:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B960D484657 for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:54:06 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at cgl.ntg.nl Received: from cgl.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (cgl.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4pMOS6wqyzYs for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:54:06 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=74.6.135.82; helo=sonic318-27.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com; envelope-from=uaru99@yahoo.com; receiver= Received: from sonic318-27.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic318-27.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.135.82]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by cgl.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 159D8484652 for ; Fri, 10 May 2024 02:54:05 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1715302441; bh=U1lIowTUP5schOQ/xFL5sNwZE2SrbWi7jHZIDyPLV4w=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=GuMi+t0IUcHvtZGcA0h2ZcxaFC2uZ7YxO5be2rXoThHzmmp2eKk40FGfXBaZxL7X6hbBpUNVZyIxHucLyE1dgenV3iBpErisbNyFjJ6MixxRZigADo+ibHdismPP9P9h2q/AvrndWLMRr0r1LOAPPrXIYUNoHnS2ttdxgOGBagIq4SR0GBrvrRcsix9wfTrwcqkaHKieTnSyNCcXjY1WGIwlwSV/uk4rE1U6R5TJ9o+M+mSPHUP7aFEfQLvHommiZ4vIFokUjRBprns8HAnUjSXAhrBfoTZ3/XQpygrwrZqxRQ0YIIqCfRkdv24ZdN5Nt976RbxgGoUPwxF36TUOLw== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1715302441; bh=vh2l7bettCsu+5xW7uF7dIjrAMJnPsWcZ4RkZ+gzKhe=; h=X-Sonic-MF:Date:From:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=LZ3yZfJz6xQYOm+IOnui0evB5YaoPhm1+eA1OKxT55eJi9kaNeeCfzosUZF4zJD3MSFVTAheHI9x6xxeMl2VOSQHVUCJOaTjP2yRSjqn1fg1UToZ3BsvRRA8o495fFIujGBya2GDsiaRDg+pl9bzmw7mZFf52DsrPxVUHGixq4sI/G9MXF4NKw7UC0jtAMal5BPwPhlzNtdnDLIObkxvR1plkWpqTp9E42GaKQf0mej6wQguh7YdsQIVrnl9CxLNEcKLIqV9d+V9v7Z3saHx7XNZVSJwgtCXjHz3YQEWKXIGMQYATRk8HmoVbNt3L/QN/u4R31Qwzp1AAX7LRAf8zA== X-YMail-OSG: uphtbTYVM1mpiHnfdx1tNxQ9uCt.2.xVQi2ah.EpqYFDjI8Ym102H7F24sA2MmO wOL_K0e21YVoJ4h1dEHM7PIKlApc9JUPATRexBmEv2GX6MhDfauDJiyGeAw_RV0ByJ5ywmrkAm4K i0Ad3wMz.SdG4zspzng9XeG5sdnkrnG86MpbV0_KYkppnTo8SFPEv4e.XLtS4qLk.L5iqf4WCcQP J8iqj47f.HHwdgfowTyMxZrN3i.1EAGFXbsdQkaYyA7_kLS4O2H7k1sK17hPUo8D.LTbix4DceRm 6DMmVwlRfO1yTPvtbTXAMLzTdxQLPxAuR3BJspS1FCrGQTdsf0u3KBaKdQxajD7f6OM0rH7f0l5J CpSBE7r8V4UVWQdlHHEvAHs3XvIe1YsoGt6YmqjTDONMRe.zcGy3Ejp5shT5.ZzfIlVvSwnFUDnI olFpUPc47ksBrZIspIhWI3gPlu1deNlkQ30w17s22e4NrcxTYzPpJ.HHfY.U.75SwJkHIhXx2LB. lvavcWScmBVyYisn_khXt_rrORiGRg34PGv9WI0NBhqAGKoJjqMWSh7oBHe.qw.dr0LREkFA42kO zqshL5hgldKKcj0IgFJJO59_nxF3VFseT8PIpZz2N4vkikNO4ts6IzbL_0vrTppDPatnUh3R815i UDba4SXzP.xERQHIDX3CNKNJIjQ7okSjIeROI4mlZwmBpXCY.OWEMPuY.Vtg1MVtAg6k6bSEA2Vf dS6iP7kuUVmC7mSEIGmCYJnwSyFH9BqJh1bTmztloFY3JB_6HspOy08oOqp7TZhHmQ2uxQp8nGDA 9OKBDZQPwB.y.tl55jXvacmR2VSff.ytWxeB4aGHH9MANvjHzxY4k7_J7T.6pwDzFOo9xOLG6kfo 1acK.JePUdM7YKiVnGgsmoPuE3RclToW3UiaSip0qTeFHnbRiFCXhmCJ2Gwav.aQ_th4u3rHq83i NfMV44gLfOqtyowfx.0sH8nFMz4sIpks5lcIalIqFEd..sKknkNWh7UlPXnBrhpmosgtgtCjHlt1 fLtuXEvwJm943pbZqT71BnDQ7bzGsJ_wm0FuAve0KHhFYZ9lLt_lizfVSCYyf2kZXZdlcSrDfSoz l8CovNzKnOVUntRig6zDhzwEYwnyRNRmegiF_MHooR8g11qdaRGKVH5_H8zrkBDr7hWfUMbMD6LS R6E8g7ntC5H96QQOYiyw.zCA.tGIGKwC8UyL.SIp_K9rRFcSC_wRFLr0cE8LmTRNP5c0800JbVLY 7LQ.2fe2yedCk8rwRo91d4WPrKqGmCyg.45XCemcSbReH1AlbhQia2qPKq1Vofa3J6qcs6L..6X6 WaPbTrlbsW0BFYUeMMusj9HkBGeJe.fRildagL8yqK.vN3OJEFaof4gGvY8UtH8Lxhi0WcXVC1rg aB9jpCF7Uf_2rXun9mgZWypib4Bo3.NBfKNuqqFzDtI2iANBM31UmcGOoQcrDziXX2hCvD8jJrMX X1OyzcmBMbc3fAS0LISngoyVmW0HlgYn6eDhXM1Ck2u4FIigemTUVhc.T.QboAl7db6qQIemt0Yv leweMRLmkMwXjk3GsaozSTmZjt2vTb1q2I5FPBpkCd1Gjbg.aGoNP5B8pEDmQtcd6f3JCzBTdrYJ 7dX_yxQ.A1pFM.s7QdFuDPuekqgD.oNx53XEDHa5Rg_ixGUI1a0RaCs_VAVDz0BX7s5nIATwCmBl n6x6Is.X2Gs_JaQ0Mg1OQ3bm72052jvlki7CtF3MPj8MNqlpmrzRiPfodkXeGYRoFwbvYzFZ9UMC kG7QXPBr.1wpq.COWKunRp_8ZLjVnc959GdZawhR8rSjM8w.eVBa0.6ybJsjLRWT_y3XRzXPQHwq R3nNj58gC0_mdqnZqCwNrr7hSeiMT_AIO2Y7L2pmu8OJN9foQEW1l430BLYubpAms0yOy3m71_Go mI1616pjpHFerOw5zXGdq0tL9AYFyxMeGt.SJ.uzJaHXs2PVPc_NvqzV4_oOKYepc7z91rE3Kuxd Xl6aL4oznSpqBe.U2IipVDEyzaZMER2Y_OGzIRXhWyhYoq37Zq._fNxn1bOgA0f9_lMnwBjzb1iF uo9I87YNce3bTODolZ2miqHI6s7v6tXQldnyYnZsdgbFBXUI.356AOLMzmvt15eKaGhL3pmRI_Sf wttrEBHwo9rvD4Qd_VcDnXePdkFeqFroycCMjRuHhnb3LF..kq.nXKa2_LT9FVWwx1o4SoQ-- X-Sonic-MF: X-Sonic-ID: ff1f6e91-7d89-4714-97f4-80ad80fd29a0 Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic318.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Fri, 10 May 2024 00:54:01 +0000 Date: Fri, 10 May 2024 00:53:58 +0000 (UTC) To: Mailing List for ConTeXt Users Message-ID: <1426675340.522184.1715302438686@mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1426675340.522184.1715302438686.ref@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.22321 YMailNorrin Message-ID-Hash: H6UT4VJKZWYPNUBV6LC6XFV4H452I6M7 X-Message-ID-Hash: H6UT4VJKZWYPNUBV6LC6XFV4H452I6M7 X-MailFrom: uaru99@yahoo.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Subject: [NTG-context] How to place text, but make it completely hidden from viewers? List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Joel via ntg-context Cc: Joel Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0112112686151596807==" --===============0112112686151596807== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_522183_1547382013.1715302438684" ------=_Part_522183_1547382013.1715302438684 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have found a few situations is confusing/breaking ConTeXt: - Footnotes inside tables, figures, frames, margins (won't render the cited= item). - Custom index items inside those items (displays "entry not flushed"). My workaround has been to define a size 0 font \tfz, then put it in a block= like this: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 {\tfz%=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0\starteffect[hidden]% =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 \cite[author1912]=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0\= stopeffect% =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0}% The problem this seems to create, is sometimes if placed between two passag= es, it interprets a need to create two paragraph breaks: \input knuth =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 {\tfz%=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0\starteffect[hidden]% =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 \cite[author1912]=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0\= stopeffect% =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0}% \input knuth It creates a paragraph break after the first knuth, then another after the = hidden text, thereby creating a "double spaced" break between two paragraph= s. Note the above code is used in many macros, so I don't have full control= always where it appears, but its making the double-spaced break everywhere= . Is there either (1) something can enter before this code that essentially h= as the effect of "backup to the previous paragraph" or (2) some other metho= d of hiding text that makes it present on the page, but just not visible to= the reader, that won't create a double spaced break, or take up any space = what-so-ever? --Joel ------=_Part_522183_1547382013.1715302438684 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have found a few situations is confusin= g/breaking ConTeXt:

<= div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">- Footnotes inside tables, figures, f= rames, margins (won't render the cited item).

- Custom index items inside those items (displays "entry= not flushed").

My workaround has been to define a size 0= font \tfz, then put it in a block like this:

= {\tfz%

\starteffect[hidden]%
=

\cite[author1912]

&nb= sp; \stopeffect%

The problem this seems to create, is s= ometimes if placed between two passages, it interprets a need to create two= paragraph breaks:

\input knuth

{\tfz%=

\starteffect[hidden]%

&= nbsp; \cite[author1912]

\stopeffect%

\input knuth

It creates a paragraph break after the first knuth, then another after t= he hidden text, thereby creating a "double spaced" break between two paragr= aphs. Note the above code is used in many macros, so I don't have full cont= rol always where it appears, but its making the double-spaced break everywh= ere.

Is there either (1) something can enter before t= his code that essentially has the effect of "backup to the previous paragra= ph" or (2) some other method of hiding text that makes it present on the pa= ge, but just not visible to the reader, that won't create a double spaced b= reak, or take up any space what-so-ever?

--Joel

------=_Part_522183_1547382013.1715302438684-- --===============0112112686151596807== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://mailman.ntg.nl/mailman3/lists/ntg-context.ntg.nl webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / https://context.aanhet.net (mirror) archive : https://github.com/contextgarden/context wiki : https://wiki.contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============0112112686151596807==--