Problem with lucida fonts (again)

Problem with lucida fonts (again)

[Eric Détrez]

Hello

I already had this problem with lucida fonts.
When I type text the letter are shifted : "b" becomes "a", "c" becomes 
"b", ...
I solved it with using the stable version.

I updated my system and I downloaded again context-minimal.
The problem came back with both versions (last or stable).
ConTeXt  ver: 2017.05.15 21:48 MKIV beta  fmt: 2017.6.27  int: 
english/english
ConTeXt  ver: 2017.06.27 18:05 MKIV beta  fmt: 2017.6.27  int: 
english/english

If I use the tex-live version all is fine
ConTeXt  ver: 2016.05.17 19:20 MKIV current  fmt: 2017.6.27  int: 
english/english

It seems current version does provide a beta.

I'm afraid I'll can use Lucida soon

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Re: Problem with lucida fonts (again)

[Henri Menke]

You're this guy, right?

https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087522.html
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/338849

Sorry, but as last time, we can't help you without you posting a reproducible example.  The
following works fine for me on TL2016, TL2017, and latest beta.

\setupbodyfont[lucidaot]

\starttext

\input knuth

\stoptext

On Tue, 2017-06-27 at 21:45 +0200, Eric Détrez wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I already had this problem with lucida fonts.
> When I type text the letter are shifted : "b" becomes "a", "c" becomes 
> "b", ...
> I solved it with using the stable version.
> 
> I updated my system and I downloaded again context-minimal.
> The problem came back with both versions (last or stable).
> ConTeXt  ver: 2017.05.15 21:48 MKIV beta  fmt: 2017.6.27  int: 
> english/english
> ConTeXt  ver: 2017.06.27 18:05 MKIV beta  fmt: 2017.6.27  int: 
> english/english
> 
> If I use the tex-live version all is fine
> ConTeXt  ver: 2016.05.17 19:20 MKIV current  fmt: 2017.6.27  int: 
> english/english
> 
> It seems current version does provide a beta.
> 
> I'm afraid I'll can use Lucida soon
> 
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Re: Problem with lucida fonts (again)

[Eric Détrez]

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Le 27-06-2017 23:00, Henri Menke a écrit :
> You're this guy, right?
> 
> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087522.html
> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/338849
> 
> Sorry, but as last time, we can't help you without you posting a
> reproducible example.  The
> following works fine for me on TL2016, TL2017, and latest beta.
> 
> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot]
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \input knuth
> 
> \stoptext

Here is an exemple, I show size 30 to see the differences but the size 
doesn't change the behaviour.
****************
\starttext
\setupbodyfont[30pt]
texte $math$

\setupbodyfont[lucidaot,30pt]
texte $math$

\setupbodyfont[lucida,30pt]
texte $math$
\stoptext
****************

I join 2 pdf with an "old" version of context (texlive 2016) and the 
last stable.

You'll see that lucidaot has an effect, it uses cm fonts but without 
italic in math
lucida shifts lhe letters in text, not in math.


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http://eric-detrez.fr

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Re: Problem with lucida fonts (again)

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/28/2017 9:21 AM, Eric Détrez wrote:
> Le 27-06-2017 23:00, Henri Menke a écrit :
>> You're this guy, right?
>>
>> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2016/087522.html
>> https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/338849
>>
>> Sorry, but as last time, we can't help you without you posting a
>> reproducible example.  The
>> following works fine for me on TL2016, TL2017, and latest beta.
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot]
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \input knuth
>>
>> \stoptext
> 
> Here is an exemple, I show size 30 to see the differences but the size 
> doesn't change the behaviour.
> ****************
> \starttext
> \setupbodyfont[30pt]
> texte $math$
> 
> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot,30pt]
> texte $math$
> 
> \setupbodyfont[lucida,30pt]
> texte $math$
> \stoptext
> ****************
> 
> I join 2 pdf with an "old" version of context (texlive 2016) and the 
> last stable.
> 
> You'll see that lucidaot has an effect, it uses cm fonts but without 
> italic in math
> lucida shifts lhe letters in text, not in math.
i fixed something in the next beta for these type 1 fonts (with slightly 
weird encodings)

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Re: Problem with lucida fonts (again)

[MF]

> i fixed something in the next beta for these type 1 fonts (with
> slightly 
> weird encodings)
> 

I'm getting some weird errors with the most recent versions of ConTeXt
too.

Currently I can't send you a sample to reproduce the problem but I can
only describe what happens with a big XML file of mine under these 3
conditions:

1 - latest beta (2017-06-29 9:32), with some OTF fonts (Garamond
Premier Pro, Myriad Pro, Quivira): the program ends with this error

luatex warning  > nodes: attempt to copy free glyph (f) node 67776,
ignored
! error:  (linebreak): invalid list tail, probably missing glue


2 - latest beta (2017-06-29 9:32), without OTF fonts: the program works


3 - ConTeXt 2016.05.17 from Debian repositories, with the fonts of case
1: the program works

Sorry for such an imprecise feedback,
Best greetings,
Massi
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Re: Problem with lucida fonts (again)

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/29/2017 2:11 PM, MF wrote:
>> i fixed something in the next beta for these type 1 fonts (with
>> slightly
>> weird encodings)
>>
> 
> I'm getting some weird errors with the most recent versions of ConTeXt
> too.
> 
> Currently I can't send you a sample to reproduce the problem but I can
> only describe what happens with a big XML file of mine under these 3
> conditions:
> 
> 1 - latest beta (2017-06-29 9:32), with some OTF fonts (Garamond
> Premier Pro, Myriad Pro, Quivira): the program ends with this error
> 
> luatex warning  > nodes: attempt to copy free glyph (f) node 67776,
> ignored
> ! error:  (linebreak): invalid list tail, probably missing glue
> 
> 
> 2 - latest beta (2017-06-29 9:32), without OTF fonts: the program works
> 
> 
> 3 - ConTeXt 2016.05.17 from Debian repositories, with the fonts of case
> 1: the program works
i really need an example


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Re: Problem with lucida fonts (again)

[Eric Détrez]

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> On 6/28/2017 9:21 AM, Eric Détrez wrote:
>> 
>> Here is an exemple, I show size 30 to see the differences but the size 
>> doesn't change the behaviour.
>> ****************
>> \starttext
>> \setupbodyfont[30pt]
>> texte $math$
>> 
>> \setupbodyfont[lucidaot,30pt]
>> texte $math$
>> 
>> \setupbodyfont[lucida,30pt]
>> texte $math$
>> \stoptext
>> ****************
>> 
>> I join 2 pdf with an "old" version of context (texlive 2016) and the 
>> last stable.
Le 29-06-2017 09:56, Hans Hagen a écrit :
> i fixed something in the next beta for these type 1 fonts (with
> slightly weird encodings)


I didn't have the open type lucidas, had to buy them.
They work fine

**********************
\starttext
\setupbodyfont[30pt]
texte $math'$

\setupbodyfont[lucidaot,30pt]
texte $math'$

\setupbodyfont[lucida,30pt]
texte $math'$

\stoptext
**********************

The ' was ugly in the "stable " version (too high) for lucidas, much 
better now.
But the Lucida's text is still crappy in type1 version.

So ...
I guess type1 fonts are messy (Lucida's or all of them ?)
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Eric Détrez
Informatique
Lycée Faidherbe, Lille
http://eric-detrez.fr

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Re: Problem with lucida fonts (again)

[Hans Hagen]

On 6/29/2017 6:51 PM, Eric Détrez wrote:

> The ' was ugly in the "stable " version (too high) for lucidas, much 
> better now.

fo rsure the opentype version is better

> But the Lucida's text is still crappy in type1 version.
> 
> So ...
> I guess type1 fonts are messy (Lucida's or all of them ?)
wipe the font cache

Hans

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