* fourier
@ 2003-09-19 11:54 Hans Hagen
2003-09-19 14:30 ` fourier Adam Lindsay
2003-09-19 19:18 ` fourier Henning Hraban Ramm
0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-09-19 11:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Michel Bovani
Hi,
I've added support for the excelent new fourier fonts by Michel Bovani,
based on utopia. So, we have another math font!
\usetypescript[fourier][ec] \setupbodyfont[fourier]
\starttext test $x=1+\sqrt{x}$ test \type {test} \stoptext
I expect math experts to look into math-fou.tex and complete the vectors.
== from here only for font lovers ==
Now, since these fonts have quite some expert and oldstyle options, it
makes sense to think of how to use them.
Michel cleverly defined:
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular] [futr8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Slanted] [futro8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Italic] [futri8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-RegularCaps] [futrc8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Bold] [futb8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldSlanted] [futbo8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldItalic] [futbi8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldCaps] [futbc8t] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular-Expert] [futr9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Slanted-Expert] [futro9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Italic-Expert] [futri9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-RegularCaps-Expert] [futrc9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Semi-Expert] [futs9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiSlanted-Expert] [futso9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiItalic-Expert] [futsi9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiCaps-Expert] [futsc9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Bold-Expert] [futb9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldSlanted-Expert] [futbo9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldItalic-Expert] [futbi9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Black-Expert] [futc9e] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Regular-OldStyle] [futr9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Slanted-OldStyle] [futro9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Italic-OldStyle] [futri9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-RegularCaps-OldStyle] [futrc9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Semi-OldStyle] [futs9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiSlanted-OldStyle] [futso9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiItalic-OldStyle] [futsi9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-SemiCaps-OldStyle] [futsc9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Bold-OldStyle] [futb9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldSlanted-OldStyle] [futbo9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-BoldItalic-OldStyle] [futbi9d] [encoding=ec]
\definefontsynonym [Fourier-Black-OldStyle] [futc9d] [encoding=ec]
and
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [Fourier-Regular]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [Fourier-Slanted]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Fourier-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifCaps] [Fourier-RegularCaps]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Fourier-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [Fourier-BoldSlanted]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Fourier-BoldItalic]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldCaps] [Fourier-BoldCaps]
\definefontsynonym
[Serif-Expert] [Fourier-Regular-Expert]
\definefontsynonym
[SerifSlanted-Expert] [Fourier-Slanted-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic-Expert] [Fourier-Italic-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifCaps-Expert] [Fourier-RegularCaps-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiBold-Expert] [Fourier-Semi-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiSlanted-Expert] [Fourier-SemiSlanted-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiItalic-Expert] [Fourier-SemiItalic-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiCaps-Expert] [Fourier-SemiCaps-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold-Expert] [Fourier-Bold-Expert]
\definefontsynonym
[SerifBoldSlanted-Expert] [Fourier-BoldSlanted-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic-Expert] [Fourier-BoldItalic-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBlack-Expert] [Fourier-Black-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [Serif-OldStyle] [Fourier-Regular-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted-OldStyle] [Fourier-Slanted-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic-OldStyle] [Fourier-Italic-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym [SerifCaps-OldStyle] [Fourier-RegularCaps-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiBold-OldStyle] [Fourier-Semi-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiSlanted-OldStyle]
[Fourier-SemiSlanted-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym
[SerifSemiItalic-OldStyle] [Fourier-SemiItalic-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym
[SerifSemiCaps-OldStyle] [Fourier-SemiCaps-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold-OldStyle] [Fourier-Bold-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted-OldStyle]
[Fourier-BoldSlanted-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym
[SerifBoldItalic-OldStyle] [Fourier-BoldItalic-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBlack-OldStyle] [Fourier-Black-OldStyle]
\definefontsynonym
[SerifBlackSlanted-OldStyle] [Fourier-BlackSlanted-OldStyle]
with
\definebodyfont
[17.3pt,14.4pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt,8pt,7pt,6pt,5pt,4pt]
[rm] [ tf=Serif sa 1,
it=SerifItalic sa 1,
sl=SerifSlanted sa 1,
sc=SerifCaps sa 1,
bf=SerifBold sa 1,
bi=SerifBoldItalic sa 1,
bs=SerifBoldSlanted sa 1,
bc=SerifBoldCaps sa 1,
bca=SerifBoldCaps sa a,
bcb=SerifBoldCaps sa b,
bcc=SerifBoldCaps sa c,
bcd=SerifBoldCaps sa d,
bcx=SerifBoldCaps sa x,
bcxx=SerifBoldCaps sa xx
]
\definebodyfont
[17.3pt,14.4pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt,8pt,7pt,6pt,5pt,4pt]
[rmx] [ tf=Serif-Expert sa 1,
it=SerifItalic-Expert sa 1,
sl=SerifSlanted-Expert sa 1,
sc=SerifCaps-Expert sa 1,
db=SerifSemiBold-Expert sa 1,
dba=SerifSemiBold-Expert sa a,dbb=SerifSemiBold-Expert sa b,
dbc=SerifSemiBold-Expert sa c,dbd=SerifSemiBold-Expert sa d,
dbx=SerifSemiBold-Expert sa x,dbxx=SerifSemiBold-Expert sa xx,
di=SerifSemiItalic-Expert sa 1,
dia=SerifSemiItalic-Expert sa a,dib=SerifSemiItalic-Expert sa b,
dic=SerifSemiItalic-Expert sa c,did=SerifSemiItalic-Expert sa d,
dix=SerifSemiItalic-Expert sa x,dixx=SerifSemiItalic-Expert sa xx,
ds=SerifSemiSlanted-Expert sa 1,
dsa=SerifSemiSlanted-Expert sa a,dsb=SerifSemiSlanted-Expert sa b,
dsc=SerifSemiSlanted-Expert sa c,dsd=SerifSemiSlanted-Expert sa d,
dsx=SerifSemiSlanted-Expert sa x,dsxx=SerifSemiSlanted-Expert sa xx,
dc=SerifSemiCaps-Expert sa 1,
dca=SerifSemiCaps-Expert sa a,dcb=SerifSemiCaps-Expert sa b,
dcc=SerifSemiCaps-Expert sa c,dcd=SerifSemiCaps-Expert sa d,
dcx=SerifSemiCaps-Expert sa x,dcxx=SerifSemiCaps-Expert sa xx,
bf=SerifBold-Expert sa 1,
bi=SerifBoldItalic-Expert sa 1,
bs=SerifBoldSlanted-Expert sa 1,
eb=SerifBlack-Expert sa 1,
eba=SerifBlack-Expert sa a,ebb=SerifBlack-Expert sa b,
ebc=SerifBlack-Expert sa c,ebd=SerifBlack-Expert sa d,
ebx=SerifBlack-Expert sa x,ebxx=SerifBlack-Expert sa xx
]
\definebodyfont
[17.3pt,14.4pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt,8pt,7pt,6pt,5pt,4pt]
[rmo] [ tf=Serif-OldStyle sa 1,
it=SerifItalic-OldStyle sa 1,
sl=SerifSlanted-OldStyle sa 1,
sc=SerifCaps-OldStyle sa 1,
db=SerifSemiBold-OldStyle sa 1,
dba=SerifSemiBold-OldStyle sa a,dbb=SerifSemiBold-OldStyle sa b,
dbc=SerifSemiBold-OldStyle sa c,dbd=SerifSemiBold-OldStyle sa d,
dbx=SerifSemiBold-OldStyle sa x,dbxx=SerifSemiBold-OldStyle sa xx,
di=SerifSemiItalic-OldStyle sa 1,
dia=SerifSemiItalic-OldStyle sa a,dib=SerifSemiItalic-OldStyle sa b,
dic=SerifSemiItalic-OldStyle sa c,did=SerifSemiItalic-OldStyle sa d,
dix=SerifSemiItalic-OldStyle sa x,dixx=SerifSemiItalic-OldStyle sa xx,
ds=SerifSemiSlanted-OldStyle sa 1,
dsa=SerifSemiSlanted-OldStyle sa a,dsb=SerifSemiSlanted-OldStyle sa b,
dsc=SerifSemiSlanted-OldStyle sa c,dsd=SerifSemiSlanted-OldStyle sa d,
dsx=SerifSemiSlanted-OldStyle sa x,dsxx=SerifSemiSlanted-OldStyle sa xx,
dc=SerifSemiCaps-OldStyle sa 1,
dca=SerifSemiCaps-OldStyle sa a,dcb=SerifSemiCaps-OldStyle sa b,
dcc=SerifSemiCaps-OldStyle sa c,dcd=SerifSemiCaps-OldStyle sa d,
dcx=SerifSemiCaps-OldStyle sa x,dcxx=SerifSemiCaps-OldStyle sa xx,
eb=SerifBlack-OldStyle sa 1,
eba=SerifBlack-OldStyle sa a,ebb=SerifBlack-OldStyle sa b,
ebc=SerifBlack-OldStyle sa c,ebd=SerifBlack-OldStyle sa d,
ebx=SerifBlack-OldStyle sa x,ebxx=SerifBlack-OldStyle sa xx,
bf=SerifBold-OldStyle sa 1,
bi=SerifBoldItalic-OldStyle sa 1,
bs=SerifBoldSlanted-OldStyle sa 1
]
the following works quite well:
==== beware: it demonstrates that one can build much more font switches in
the low level mechanism than one would expect! ====
\rm
\midaligned{\bcc Standard}
{\tf Text1234} {\tfa Text1234} {\tfb Text1234} {\tfc Text1234} {\tfx
Text1234} {\tfxx Text1234}
{\it Text1234} {\ita Text1234} {\itb Text1234} {\itc Text1234} {\itx
Text1234} {\itxx Text1234}
{\sl Text1234} {\sla Text1234} {\slb Text1234} {\slc Text1234} {\slx
Text1234} {\slxx Text1234}
{\sc Text1234} {\sca Text1234} {\scb Text1234} {\scc Text1234} {\scx
Text1234} {\scxx Text1234}
{\bf Text1234} {\bfa Text1234} {\bfb Text1234} {\bfc Text1234} {\bfx
Text1234} {\bfxx Text1234}
{\bs Text1234} {\bsa Text1234} {\bsb Text1234} {\bsc Text1234} {\bsx
Text1234} {\bsxx Text1234}
{\bi Text1234} {\bia Text1234} {\bib Text1234} {\bic Text1234} {\bix
Text1234} {\bixx Text1234}
{\bc Text1234} {\bca Text1234} {\bcb Text1234} {\bcc Text1234} {\bcx
Text1234} {\bcxx Text1234}
\page
\rmx
\midaligned{\dcc Expert}
{\tf Text1234} {\tfa Text1234} {\tfb Text1234} {\tfc Text1234} {\tfx
Text1234} {\tfxx Text1234}
{\it Text1234} {\ita Text1234} {\itb Text1234} {\itc Text1234} {\itx
Text1234} {\itxx Text1234}
{\sl Text1234} {\sla Text1234} {\slb Text1234} {\slc Text1234} {\slx
Text1234} {\slxx Text1234}
{\sc Text1234} {\sca Text1234} {\scb Text1234} {\scc Text1234} {\scx
Text1234} {\scxx Text1234}
{\bf Text1234} {\bfa Text1234} {\bfb Text1234} {\bfc Text1234} {\bfx
Text1234} {\bfxx Text1234}
{\bs Text1234} {\bsa Text1234} {\bsb Text1234} {\bsc Text1234} {\bsx
Text1234} {\bsxx Text1234}
{\bi Text1234} {\bia Text1234} {\bib Text1234} {\bic Text1234} {\bix
Text1234} {\bixx Text1234}
{\db Text1234} {\dba Text1234} {\dbb Text1234} {\dbc Text1234} {\dbx
Text1234} {\dbxx Text1234}
{\di Text1234} {\dia Text1234} {\dib Text1234} {\dic Text1234} {\dix
Text1234} {\dixx Text1234}
{\ds Text1234} {\dsa Text1234} {\dsb Text1234} {\dsc Text1234} {\dsx
Text1234} {\dsxx Text1234}
{\dc Text1234} {\dca Text1234} {\dcb Text1234} {\dcc Text1234} {\dcx
Text1234} {\dcxx Text1234}
{\eb Text1234} {\eba Text1234} {\ebb Text1234} {\ebc Text1234} {\ebx
Text1234} {\ebxx Text1234}
\page
\rmo
\midaligned{\dcc Old style}
{\tf Text1234} {\tfa Text1234} {\tfb Text1234} {\tfc Text1234} {\tfx
Text1234} {\tfxx Text1234}
{\it Text1234} {\ita Text1234} {\itb Text1234} {\itc Text1234} {\itx
Text1234} {\itxx Text1234}
{\sl Text1234} {\sla Text1234} {\slb Text1234} {\slc Text1234} {\slx
Text1234} {\slxx Text1234}
{\sc Text1234} {\sca Text1234} {\scb Text1234} {\scc Text1234} {\scx
Text1234} {\scxx Text1234}
{\bf Text1234} {\bfa Text1234} {\bfb Text1234} {\bfc Text1234} {\bfx
Text1234} {\bfxx Text1234}
{\bs Text1234} {\bsa Text1234} {\bsb Text1234} {\bsc Text1234} {\bsx
Text1234} {\bsxx Text1234}
{\bi Text1234} {\bia Text1234} {\bib Text1234} {\bic Text1234} {\bix
Text1234} {\bixx Text1234}
{\db Text1234} {\dba Text1234} {\dbb Text1234} {\dbc Text1234} {\dbx
Text1234} {\dbxx Text1234}
{\di Text1234} {\dia Text1234} {\dib Text1234} {\dic Text1234} {\dix
Text1234} {\dixx Text1234}
{\ds Text1234} {\dsa Text1234} {\dsb Text1234} {\dsc Text1234} {\dsx
Text1234} {\dsxx Text1234}
{\dc Text1234} {\dca Text1234} {\dcb Text1234} {\dcc Text1234} {\dcx
Text1234} {\dcxx Text1234}
{\eb Text1234} {\eba Text1234} {\ebb Text1234} {\ebc Text1234} {\ebx
Text1234} {\ebxx Text1234}
Now, another approach is to use typescripts and something
\definetypeface [fourier] [serif] [rm] [fourier] ...
\definetypeface [fourier-expert] [serif] [rm] [fourier-expert] ...
etc, i.e. let expert and oldstyel live in their own namespace
For that i need to add a couple of more general mappings and this si what
we should discuss:
how are we going to deal with 'black' 'oldstyle' 'expert' 'semi' in the
sense of prefixes and suffixes? Actually,
\definefontsynonym
[Serif-Expert] [Fourier-Regular-Expert]
\definefontsynonym
[SerifSlanted-Expert] [Fourier-Slanted-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic-Expert] [Fourier-Italic-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifCaps-Expert] [Fourier-RegularCaps-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiBold-Expert] [Fourier-Semi-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiSlanted-Expert] [Fourier-SemiSlanted-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiItalic-Expert] [Fourier-SemiItalic-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiCaps-Expert] [Fourier-SemiCaps-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold-Expert] [Fourier-Bold-Expert]
\definefontsynonym
[SerifBoldSlanted-Expert] [Fourier-BoldSlanted-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic-Expert] [Fourier-BoldItalic-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBlack-Expert] [Fourier-Black-Expert]
can as well become
\definefontsynonym [Serif] [Fourier-Regular-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [Fourier-Slanted-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Fourier-Italic-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifCaps] [Fourier-RegularCaps-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiBold] [Fourier-Semi-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiSlanted] [Fourier-SemiSlanted-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiItalic] [Fourier-SemiItalic-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifSemiCaps] [Fourier-SemiCaps-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [Fourier-Bold-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [Fourier-BoldSlanted-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Fourier-BoldItalic-Expert]
\definefontsynonym [SerifBlack] [Fourier-Black-Expert]
i.e. we don't need the -Expert here because it can live in a typeface; but
how to deal with Black and Semi?
Hans
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* Re: fourier
2003-09-19 11:54 fourier Hans Hagen
@ 2003-09-19 14:30 ` Adam Lindsay
2003-09-19 19:25 ` fourier Henning Hraban Ramm
2003-09-19 19:18 ` fourier Henning Hraban Ramm
1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Adam Lindsay @ 2003-09-19 14:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Michel Bovani
Hans Hagen said this at Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:54:46 +0200:
>i.e. we don't need the -Expert here because it can live in a typeface; but
>how to deal with Black and Semi?
And Light? (and ExtraLight and ExtraBlack?)
Hmm. You're asking us?
I always assumed, since I came to the ConTeXt game relatively late, that
it was a conscious choice to make only two weights available at once.
Typographically, it mostly makes sense not to mix Regular with SemiBold
and Bold in text, so I didn't argue with that.
However, I realise others will point out that SemiBold could be very
useful in headings and other areas outside the normal text flow. Likewise
with the other weights.
Plus, many of these weights are somewhat intended by their designers to
be contrasted with one another, like Light+SemiBold, Regular+Bold,
SemiBold+ExtraBold.
So one way could be to keep the [Serif] [SerifBold] [SerifSemiBold]
[SerifLight] synonyms around, and selectively sub-set them and associate
the with \tf and \bf as appropriate.
It could be taken further, as Michel has done, to make all four
accessible at once, with tf, db, bf, and eb.
...but then you run into people who want to accommodate a fifth and sixth
weight.
(I would also prefer to break small caps out as a separate design axis
for faces in general, and not be tied to the notion that SerifSemiCaps is
possible, but SerifItalicCaps is not. Side issue.)
However, this list:
[Serif]
[SerifSlanted]
[SerifItalic]
[SerifCaps]
[SerifSemiBold]
[SerifSemiSlanted]
[SerifSemiItalic]
[SerifSemiCaps] %[SerifCapsSemi] ??
[SerifBold]
[SerifBoldSlanted]
[SerifBoldItalic] %[SerifCapsBold] ??
[SerifBlack]
Looks reasonably well-named, as far as it goes, if that's the question.
When dealing with the Adobe OpenType Pro font sets, I named a subset of
them SerifCapsBold, etc. within their own family (rc), parallel to the
Serif (rm) family.
There's also the issue of the optical size axis (Caption, Text, Subhead,
Display), but I think that can be sufficiently handled within size mappings.
For interest, here's an except from my treatment of weight x shape x caps
x size:
\starttypescript [serif] [Opticals] [size]
\definebodyfont
[12pt,11pt][rm]
[tf=SerifText sa 1,
tfa=SerifSubhead sa \magfactor1,
tfb=SerifSubhead sa \magfactor2,
tfc=SerifSubhead sa \magfactor3,
tfd=SerifDisplay sa \magfactor4,
bf=SerifBoldText sa 1,
bfa=SerifBoldSubhead sa \magfactor1,
bfb=SerifBoldSubhead sa \magfactor2,
bfc=SerifBoldSubhead sa \magfactor3,
bfd=SerifBoldDisplay sa \magfactor4,
it=SerifItalicText sa 1,
ita=SerifItalicSubhead sa \magfactor1,
itb=SerifItalicSubhead sa \magfactor2,
itc=SerifItalicSubhead sa \magfactor3,
itd=SerifItalicDisplay sa \magfactor4,
bi=SerifBoldItalicText sa 1,
bia=SerifBoldItalicSubhead sa \magfactor1,
bib=SerifBoldItalicSubhead sa \magfactor2,
bic=SerifBoldItalicSubhead sa \magfactor3,
bid=SerifBoldItalicDisplay sa \magfactor4,
sc=SerifCapsText sa 1,
sca=SerifCapsSubhead sa \magfactor1,
scb=SerifCapsSubhead sa \magfactor2,
scc=SerifCapsSubhead sa \magfactor3,
scd=SerifCapsDisplay sa \magfactor4]
\definebodyfont
[12pt,11pt][rc]
[tf=SerifCapsText sa 1,
tfa=SerifCapsSubhead sa \magfactor1,
tfb=SerifCapsSubhead sa \magfactor2,
tfc=SerifCapsSubhead sa \magfactor3,
tfd=SerifCapsDisplay sa \magfactor4,
bf=SerifCapsBoldText sa 1,
bfa=SerifCapsBoldSubhead sa \magfactor1,
bfb=SerifCapsBoldSubhead sa \magfactor2,
bfc=SerifCapsBoldSubhead sa \magfactor3,
bfd=SerifCapsBoldDisplay sa \magfactor4,
it=SerifCapsItalicText sa 1,
ita=SerifCapsItalicSubhead sa \magfactor1,
itb=SerifCapsItalicSubhead sa \magfactor2,
itc=SerifCapsItalicSubhead sa \magfactor3,
itd=SerifCapsItalicDisplay sa \magfactor4,
bi=SerifCapsBoldItalicText sa 1,
bia=SerifCapsBoldItalicSubhead sa \magfactor1,
bib=SerifCapsBoldItalicSubhead sa \magfactor2,
bic=SerifCapsBoldItalicSubhead sa \magfactor3,
bid=SerifCapsBoldItalicDisplay sa \magfactor4]
\stoptypescript
It's tough: you can easily come up with 100+ styles for a single font,
very legitimately, which suggests that perhaps a stricter
parameterisation could be useful:
3 upright vs italic vs slanted (+ upright italic?)
4 or 5 weights
2 roman vs caps (or oldstyle, other variants)
x 4 optical sizes
---
96+ variations
yow.
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* Re: fourier
2003-09-19 11:54 fourier Hans Hagen
2003-09-19 14:30 ` fourier Adam Lindsay
@ 2003-09-19 19:18 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2003-09-19 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
Am Freitag, 19.09.03, um 13:54 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Hans Hagen:
> but how to deal with Black and Semi?
In my typescript I make several families, if there are "too much"
faces, e.g.
myfont has Regular and Bold
myfont-light has Light and Medium
myfont-bold has Medium and Black
That's easy, and the existing system is sufficient, but it's not
beautiful.
Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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* Re: fourier
2003-09-19 14:30 ` fourier Adam Lindsay
@ 2003-09-19 19:25 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2003-09-19 19:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
Am Freitag, 19.09.03, um 16:30 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Adam Lindsay:
> However, this list:
> [Serif]
> [SerifSlanted]
> [SerifItalic]
> [SerifCaps]
> [SerifSemiBold]
> [SerifSemiSlanted]
> [SerifSemiItalic]
> [SerifSemiCaps] %[SerifCapsSemi] ??
> [SerifBold]
> [SerifBoldSlanted]
> [SerifBoldItalic] %[SerifCapsBold] ??
> [SerifBlack]
And BlackItalic etc. and the same for Light.
If you look at families like Univers or Neue Helvetica, there are:
UltraLight/ExtraLight Thin Light Regular Medium Bold Heavy Black
UltraBlack
the same for condensed and expanded, and everytime with an oblique face.
> It's tough: you can easily come up with 100+ styles for a single font,
> very legitimately, which suggests that perhaps a stricter
> parameterisation could be useful:
> 3 upright vs italic vs slanted (+ upright italic?)
and sometimes backward slanted
> 4 or 5 weights
> 2 roman vs caps (or oldstyle, other variants)
> x 4 optical sizes
> ---
> 96+ variations
plus Alternates plus Swash plus Outline plus...
it never ends ;-)
Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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