project too large??

project too large??

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

I have a quite large project: over 700 pages, 2500 footnotes, some  
tables, figures etc.
Everything works well when typeset in two parts.

But when I typeset the entire project as one, I get this error:


 >

EbeneSechs      : C.III.7.b Wirksamkeit trotz mündlicher und  
konkludenter Abtr
etungsverbote
! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=60000].
\doifpredefinedreferenceelse ...erence \endcsname
                                                    
\dummypredefinedreference ...

\docheckinnerreference ...predefinedreferenceelse
                                                   {\global  
\referencefoundfa...

\dodoifreferencefoundelse ...ocheckinnerreference
                                                   \ifreferencefound  
\else \c...

\doifreferencefoundelse ...else \primaryreference
                                                   \ifreferencefound  
#2\else ...

\gotobox ...2]} {\hbox {\unknownreference {#2}#1}}
                                                   \referenceinfo {<} 
{#2}\egr...
<argument> ...}[\s!fnt :t:\internalfootreference ]
                                                    
\footnotereferencefrom
...
l.2095 \startfootnote[2273]

!  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
Transcript written on DH_X.log.
TeXExec | runtime: 108.802642

<

Someone can tell me please what exactly I could/should increase?


Thanks,

Steffen

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Re: project too large??

[Hans Hagen]

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a quite large project: over 700 pages, 2500 footnotes, some  
> tables, figures etc.
> Everything works well when typeset in two parts.
> 
> But when I typeset the entire project as one, I get this error:
> 
> 
>  >
> 
> EbeneSechs      : C.III.7.b Wirksamkeit trotz mündlicher und  
> konkludenter Abtr
> etungsverbote
> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=60000].

you can increase the hash in texmf.cnf

(you need to remake the formats for mkii/mkiv and run luatools 
--generate in advance if you use mkiv)



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Re: project too large??

[Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد]

Hi Hans,

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:38:12 -0600, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> you can increase the hash in texmf.cnf

Are there plans to get rid of texmf.cnf for mkiv and do this sort of  
scaling, say, dynamically?

Best wishes
Idris

-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid, Editor-in-Chief
International Journal of Shi`i Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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Re: project too large??

[Hans Hagen]

Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote:
> Hi Hans,
> 
> On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:38:12 -0600, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
>> you can increase the hash in texmf.cnf
> 
> Are there plans to get rid of texmf.cnf for mkiv and do this sort of  
> scaling, say, dynamically?

yes, eventually (much is already gone)

Hans


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Re: project too large??

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Am 09.09.2008 um 18:38 schrieb Hans Hagen:

> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a quite large project: over 700 pages, 2500 footnotes, some
>> tables, figures etc.
>> Everything works well when typeset in two parts.
>>
>> But when I typeset the entire project as one, I get this error:
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>> EbeneSechs      : C.III.7.b Wirksamkeit trotz mündlicher und
>> konkludenter Abtr
>> etungsverbote
>> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=60000].
>
> you can increase the hash in texmf.cnf


that worked ... but after some more working on my project I get  
another error (see below):

which one I can increase now ?

pool_free.context        =   47500
pool_size.context        = 2000000
pool_size = 1250000
pool_free = 47500

Thanks, Steffen

=====

! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=529543].
\defconvertedargument ...\edef #1{\detokenize {#2}
                                                   }
\dodododoconstructhead ...ko #1\c!expansion }}{#4}
                                                   \gdef  
\currentheadtext {#4...
l.3933 ...\kern-0.05em}, \hbox{ZfgKW} 2005, 981.]}

If you really absolutely need more capacity,
you can ask a wizard to enlarge me.


Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
  33083 strings out of 457141
  529543 string characters out of 529543
  5331289 words of memory out of 7759285
  61694 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+500000
  1283787 words of font info for 969 fonts, out of 3000000 for 5000
  543 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191
  72i,21n,94p,4610b,14879s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,10000p, 
200000b,50000s
!  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!

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Re: project too large??

[Steffen Wolfrum]

... ok fine again. I just increased the weak settings by ten:

hash_extra = 500000 % 50000
pool_size.context        = 20000000 % 2000000

But I assume the fact that these variables have predefined values  
indicates that they shouldn't be fantastic high. Otherwise why would  
they have these precise values anyway?

So I am wondering: what is the right value, what is too high and what  
happens if the values are too high?

Steffen



Am 10.09.2008 um 18:46 schrieb Steffen Wolfrum:

>
> Am 09.09.2008 um 18:38 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>
>> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a quite large project: over 700 pages, 2500 footnotes, some
>>> tables, figures etc.
>>> Everything works well when typeset in two parts.
>>>
>>> But when I typeset the entire project as one, I get this error:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> EbeneSechs      : C.III.7.b Wirksamkeit trotz mündlicher und
>>> konkludenter Abtr
>>> etungsverbote
>>> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [hash size=60000].
>>
>> you can increase the hash in texmf.cnf
>
>
> that worked ... but after some more working on my project I get
> another error (see below):
>
> which one I can increase now ?
>
> pool_free.context        =   47500
> pool_size.context        = 2000000
> pool_size = 1250000
> pool_free = 47500
>
> Thanks, Steffen
>
> =====
>
> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [pool size=529543].
> \defconvertedargument ...\edef #1{\detokenize {#2}
>                                                   }
> \dodododoconstructhead ...ko #1\c!expansion }}{#4}
>                                                   \gdef
> \currentheadtext {#4...
> l.3933 ...\kern-0.05em}, \hbox{ZfgKW} 2005, 981.]}
>
> If you really absolutely need more capacity,
> you can ask a wizard to enlarge me.
>
>
> Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
>  33083 strings out of 457141
>  529543 string characters out of 529543
>  5331289 words of memory out of 7759285
>  61694 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+500000
>  1283787 words of font info for 969 fonts, out of 3000000 for 5000
>  543 hyphenation exceptions out of 8191
>  72i,21n,94p,4610b,14879s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,10000p,
> 200000b,50000s
> !  ==> Fatal error occurred, no output PDF file produced!
>
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Re: project too large??

[Hans Hagen]

Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> .... ok fine again. I just increased the weak settings by ten:
> 
> hash_extra = 500000 % 50000
> pool_size.context        = 20000000 % 2000000
> 
> But I assume the fact that these variables have predefined values 
> indicates that they shouldn't be fantastic high. Otherwise why would 
> they have these precise values anyway?
> 
> So I am wondering: what is the right value, what is too high and what 
> happens if the values are too high?

the larger, the more mem is allocated beforehand



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Re: project too large??

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Sep 10, 2008, at 9:41 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:

> ... ok fine again. I just increased the weak settings by ten:
>
> hash_extra = 500000 % 50000
> pool_size.context        = 20000000 % 2000000
>
> But I assume the fact that these variables have predefined values
> indicates that they shouldn't be fantastic high. Otherwise why would
> they have these precise values anyway?
>
> So I am wondering: what is the right value, what is too high and what
> happens if the values are too high?
>
> Steffen
>
Maybe of interest: here's what Taco wrote in December 2007:

> Increase hash_extra, as Hans said. There is (virtuallly) no limit
> to that.

As to the question why the values are so low in texmf.cnf: keep in  
mind that TeX runs on some pretty old computers with maybe only 256 MB  
of RAM. When you prepare such a big system as TeXLive which has to run  
on all sorts of platforms and hardware, you prefer to err on the low  
side.

Thomas
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