What has become of X-Desc?

What has become of X-Desc?

[Robert F. Beeger]

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Hello!

I think this is mainly a question to Giuseppe Bilotta, but since the
answer may be interesting to others too, I'm asking it in
the open and not in a private e-mail.

Some time ago Giuseppe presented his module X-Desc to this mailing
list which is wonderful for making such things as epigraphs. The only problem
with this module is that you have to adapt the texutil.tex each time you
download a new version of ConTeXt to make this module run.

In the Readme-File Giuseppe says that this will change as soon as
modules are supported by texutil.tex.

To me it seems, that texutil now supports modules. So the question is
: Will there be a new version of X-Desc? Under
http://digilander.iol.it/bilotta/giuseppe/xdesc.zip there is still the
old version.

Don't get me false : I really like this module and will continue to
use it whether there will be a new version or not. Thanks for this
great module, Giuseppe! It has produced no errors here. The only
pain is the changing of texutil.tex.

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  Robert F. Beeger        
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Re: What has become of X-Desc?

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Sunday, July 28, 2002 Robert F. Beeger wrote:

RFB> Hello!

RFB> I think this is mainly a question to Giuseppe Bilotta, but since the
RFB> answer may be interesting to others too, I'm asking it in
RFB> the open and not in a private e-mail.

RFB> Some time ago Giuseppe presented his module X-Desc to this mailing
RFB> list which is wonderful for making such things as epigraphs. The only problem
RFB> with this module is that you have to adapt the texutil.tex each time you
RFB> download a new version of ConTeXt to make this module run.

RFB> In the Readme-File Giuseppe says that this will change as soon as
RFB> modules are supported by texutil.tex.

RFB> To me it seems, that texutil now supports modules. So the question is
RFB> : Will there be a new version of X-Desc? Under
RFB> http://digilander.iol.it/bilotta/giuseppe/xdesc.zip there is still the
RFB> old version.

Ok, I just forgot to upload the new version when I was done ...
it's there now :)

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re[2]: What has become of X-Desc?

[Robert F. Beeger]

Hello Giuseppe,

Sunday, July 28, 2002, 7:18:39 PM, you wrote:
GB> Ok, I just forgot to upload the new version when I was done ...
GB> it's there now :)

Thanks! But (there's always a but :) ) it does not seem to work for
me.
I copied the files in the zip to my texmf-dir and copied xdesc.pm also
to my TexLive/bin/win32-dir.

In my tex-file I have :
\starttemplate[epigraph][normal]
  \setupframedtexts[frame=off, 
                    leftframe=on, 
                    rightframe=on, 
                    rulethickness=2pt,
                    framecolor=darkgreen,
                    backgroundcolor=lightgray,
                    align=right,
                    width=13cm]
  \startframedtext[right]
  {\ix
  {\sl \getslot{content}}
  \blank
  \rightaligned{--- \getslot{author} : {\sl \getslot{work}}}}
  \stopframedtext
\stoptemplate
\selecttemplate[epigraph][normal]

\epigraph[button][author={James Blish}, work={Cities in Flight}]
  {\language[en] He touched the button over his heart. Creation began}

Now pdfetex complains:
 TeXExec 3.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002

            executable : pdfetex
                format : cont-en
             inputfile : rb_dipl
                output : pdftex
             interface : en
          current mode : none
               TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2c 7.3.7x)
entering extended mode
(./rb_dipl.tex{d:/TeXLive/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}

ConTeXt  ver: 2002.7.12  fmt: 2002.7.28  int: english  mes: english

language       : language en is active
<protectionstate 0>
system         : cont-new loaded
(d:/TeXLive/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems        : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex!
system (E-TEX) : [line 785] \dimexpr
)
system         : cont-old loaded
(d:/TeXLive/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading        : Context Old Macros
)
system         : cont-fil loaded
(d:/TeXLive/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading        : Context File Synonyms
)
bodyfont       : 12pt rm is loaded
language       : patterns 2:2-en-2 4:2-de-2 loaded
specials       : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system         : rb_dipl.top loaded
(./rb_dipl.top
specials       : loading definition file tpd
(d:/TeXLive/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials       : loading definition file fdf
(d:/TeXLive/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex <unprotect 3> <unprotect 4>
system (E-TEX) : [line 1703] \ifcsname
<unprotect 5> <protect 5> <protect 4> <protect 3>)
specials       : fdf loaded
<unprotect 3> <protect 3>)
specials       : fdf,tpd loaded
)
pdftex         : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
pdftex         : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
system         : macros of module xdesc loaded
(d:/TeXLive/texmf/tex/context/user/t-xdesc.tex)
color          : system rgb is global activated
! Undefined control sequence.
l.81 \epigraph
              [button][author={James Blish}, work={Cities in Flight}]
?

I found out that the modules that come bundled with ConTeXt are
referenced like so
use cont_set ;
So I thought xdesc.pm probably needs to be included in a similar way.
When I put a use xdesc; into texutil.pl it had no effect. When I put
it into texexec.pl, Perl complained :
Can't locate xdesc.pm in @INC (@INC contains: D:/Perl/lib D:/Perl/site/lib .) at
 d:\TeXLive\bin\win32\texexec.pl line 39.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at d:\TeXLive\bin\win32\texexec.pl line 39.
I put xdesc.pm in D:/Perl/lib and had again the situation from the
beginning.

----------------
Greets,                   
  Robert F. Beeger        
 ____________________________________
|                                    |
|  Robert F. Beeger                  |
|  e-mail   : robert@beeger.net      |
|  web-site : http://beeger.net      |
|____________________________________|

Re[3]: What has become of X-Desc?

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Sunday, July 28, 2002 Robert F. Beeger wrote:

RFB> Hello Giuseppe,

RFB> Sunday, July 28, 2002, 7:18:39 PM, you wrote:
GB>> Ok, I just forgot to upload the new version when I was done ...
GB>> it's there now :)

RFB> Thanks! But (there's always a but :) ) it does not seem to work for
RFB> me.
RFB> I copied the files in the zip to my texmf-dir and copied xdesc.pm also
RFB> to my TexLive/bin/win32-dir.

RFB> In my tex-file I have :
RFB> \starttemplate[epigraph][normal]
RFB>   \setupframedtexts[frame=off, 
RFB>                     leftframe=on, 
RFB>                     rightframe=on, 
RFB>                     rulethickness=2pt,
RFB>                     framecolor=darkgreen,
RFB>                     backgroundcolor=lightgray,
RFB>                     align=right,
RFB>                     width=13cm]
RFB>   \startframedtext[right]
RFB>   {\ix
RFB>   {\sl \getslot{content}}
RFB>   \blank
RFB>   \rightaligned{--- \getslot{author} : {\sl \getslot{work}}}}
RFB>   \stopframedtext
RFB> \stoptemplate
RFB> \selecttemplate[epigraph][normal]

RFB> \epigraph[button][author={James Blish}, work={Cities in Flight}]
RFB>   {\language[en] He touched the button over his heart. Creation began}

RFB> Now pdfetex complains:

[snip]

RFB> ! Undefined control sequence.
RFB> l.81 \epigraph
RFB>               [button][author={James Blish}, work={Cities in Flight}]
RFB> ?

Did you give a

\defineextendeddescription[epigraph][epigraphs][author,work]

before that?

Does it work with \startepigraph ... \stopepigraph?

RFB> I found out that the modules that come bundled with ConTeXt are
RFB> referenced like so
RFB> use cont_set ;
RFB> So I thought xdesc.pm probably needs to be included in a similar way.
RFB> When I put a use xdesc; into texutil.pl it had no effect. When I put
RFB> it into texexec.pl, Perl complained :
RFB> Can't locate xdesc.pm in @INC (@INC contains: D:/Perl/lib D:/Perl/site/lib .) at
RFB>  d:\TeXLive\bin\win32\texexec.pl line 39.
RFB> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at d:\TeXLive\bin\win32\texexec.pl line 39.
RFB> I put xdesc.pm in D:/Perl/lib and had again the situation from the
RFB> beginning.

There is no need to patch texutil. It should automatically load
the modules. The error occurs before texexec can get to the second
pass, it's a TeX-side problem.

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re[4]: What has become of X-Desc?

[Robert F. Beeger]

Hi!

Sunday, July 28, 2002, 11:48:39 PM, you wrote:
GB> Did you give a

GB> \defineextendeddescription[epigraph][epigraphs][author,work]
Yes! I only forgot to put it into the e-mail.

GB> Does it work with \startepigraph ... \stopepigraph?
Yes! Thanks.

GB> There is no need to patch texutil. It should automatically load
That was my hope and that's how it works now with your help. Thanks
again!

----------------
Greets,                   
  Robert F. Beeger        
 ____________________________________
|                                    |
|  Robert F. Beeger                  |
|  e-mail   : robert@beeger.net      |
|  web-site : http://beeger.net      |
|____________________________________|

Re[5]: What has become of X-Desc?

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Monday, July 29, 2002 Robert F. Beeger wrote:

RFB> Hi!

RFB> Sunday, July 28, 2002, 11:48:39 PM, you wrote:
GB>> Did you give a

GB>> \defineextendeddescription[epigraph][epigraphs][author,work]
RFB> Yes! I only forgot to put it into the e-mail.

GB>> Does it work with \startepigraph ... \stopepigraph?
RFB> Yes! Thanks.

As soon as I get MiKTeX 2.2 (I've been waiting for it to come out
before installing TeX on my new computer) I'll get back to work on
this, to (re)enable the non\start..\stop method (it got lost along
the way somehow when I rewrote the module for the modularized
version of ConTeXt.)

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta