Context index and sorting question

Context index and sorting question

[sjoerd siebinga]

Hi all,

I am currently working on a dictionary with multiple indices of older 
language stages like, Old English, Old Norse, Greec, Sanskrit, Hittite, 
etc. Most of these languages have different characters, accents and 
sorting rules than English. In enco-ini.tex I found the \definesortkey 
command, but it is not entirely clear to me how I could use this 
command for the individual indices instead of  for the overall language 
(in my case english). Or even if this is possible at all?

Could someone tell me how I can use the \definesortkey command or for 
that matter any other ConTeXt mechanism to define sortrules for 
individual indices?

Regards Sjoerd

PS why does Texutil strip accents \'  \~  \` \" \^ but not \= ?

Re: Context index and sorting question

[John Culleton]

On Wednesday 29 December 2004 04:11, sjoerd siebinga wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am currently working on a dictionary with multiple indices of older
> language stages like, Old English, Old Norse, Greec, Sanskrit, Hittite,
> etc. Most of these languages have different characters, accents and
> sorting rules than English. In enco-ini.tex I found the \definesortkey
> command, but it is not entirely clear to me how I could use this
> command for the individual indices instead of  for the overall language
> (in my case english). Or even if this is possible at all?
>
> Could someone tell me how I can use the \definesortkey command or for
> that matter any other ConTeXt mechanism to define sortrules for
> individual indices?
>
You might want to look into a separate program called Xindy. It more or less 
replaces Makindex in plain and LaTeX applications, but it could be used in 
Context most likely. It is specifically designed to address the situations 
you described, i.e. non-Western European sort rules. 


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Re: Context index and sorting question

[sjoerd siebinga]

On 29 Dec 2004, at 14:41, John Culleton wrote:

>>
>> Could someone tell me how I can use the \definesortkey command or for
>> that matter any other ConTeXt mechanism to define sortrules for
>> individual indices?
>>
> You might want to look into a separate program called Xindy. It more 
> or less
> replaces Makindex in plain and LaTeX applications, but it could be 
> used in
> Context most likely. It is specifically designed to address the 
> situations
> you described, i.e. non-Western European sort rules.
>
Thanks for the quick reply, John.

Xindy looks like a great program and provides great solutions. The 
problem is that I can't seem to get it to work on my Mac OS X machine. 
A quick look through the xindy mailinglist gave me the impression that 
no one has been able to get Xindy to run on Mac OS X yet.

Could somebody maybe tell me just how the \definesortkey command works? 
Do I have to define a specific encoding or create "languagespecifics" 
in order for TEXEXEC or TEXUTIL to use it?

I would imagine that ConTeXt must be able to sort a norwegian words in 
a separate register say "\indexnw{kr{\o}ypa}}" differently from the 
english index entries in general \index{} register.


Sjoerd

Re: Context index and sorting question

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

Am 29.12.2004 um 15:37 schrieb sjoerd siebinga:
> I would imagine that ConTeXt must be able to sort a norwegian words in 
> a separate register say "\indexnw{kr{\o}ypa}}" differently from the 
> english index entries in general \index{} register.

Sorry, I can't help with \definesortkey, only wanted to point out that 
you can define your own indexes easily:

"index" is only the one predefined "register". Look after 
\defineregister, \setupregister etc. in the manual.

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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Re: Context index and sorting question

[Hans Hagen]

sjoerd siebinga wrote:

> Could somebody maybe tell me just how the \definesortkey command works? 
> Do I have to define a specific encoding or create "languagespecifics" in 
> order for TEXEXEC or TEXUTIL to use it?

you hook it into the language

\startlanguagespecifics[no]

   \definesortkey {\ae}{z}{b}{\ae}
   \definesortkey {\AE}{z}{b}{\AE}
   \definesortkey {\o}{z} {c}{\o}
   \definesortkey {\O}{z} {c}{\O}
   \definesortkey {\aa}{z}{d}{\aa}
   \definesortkey {\aring}{z}{d}{\aring}
   \definesortkey {\AA}{z}{d}{\AA}
   \definesortkey {\Aring}{z}{d}{\Aring}

\stoplanguagespecifics

\starttext

test \index{amoebe}
test \index{\ae roplane}
test \index{big issue}

\completeindex

\stoptext

> I would imagine that ConTeXt must be able to sort a norwegian words in a 
> separate register say "\indexnw{kr{\o}ypa}}" differently from the 
> english index entries in general \index{} register.

hm, this should be doable, if this is important, i can look into it (time to 
sort out the index mess)

Hans

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