* Boxed items don't like sidefloats
@ 2007-07-31 11:14 Giuseppe Bilotta
2007-07-31 13:34 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2007-07-31 11:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Hello all,
here's a test document:
================
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\newbox\testbox
\starttext
\setbox\testbox\vbox{%
\placefigure[outer,none,fit]{}{%
\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}%
}%
\startitemize
\item some test
\item \input knuth
\item \input tufte
\stopitemize
}
\box\testbox
\page
\setbox\testbox\vbox{%
\placefigure[outer,none,fit]{}{%
\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}%
}%
\startitemize
\item some test
\item \input knuth
\item \input tufte
\stopitemize
}
\box\testbox
\stoptext
============
As you may notice, items think the placefigure refers to all
of them, so that if a particular item is bigger than the
figure height, it will wrap correctly around the
(inexistent) box, otherwise it will just side it.
Interesting, the same thing does *not* happen when not going
through a box, but typesetting things directly in the page.
However, for my application I need to typeset the sidefloat
and the itemization in a box, so I hit the bug ...
Suggestions?
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* Re: Boxed items don't like sidefloats
2007-07-31 11:14 Boxed items don't like sidefloats Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2007-07-31 13:34 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-07-31 16:51 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2007-07-31 20:30 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2007-07-31 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:14:27 +0200
Giuseppe Bilotta <gip.bilotta@iol.it> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> here's a test document:
>
[test document]
>
> As you may notice, items think the placefigure refers to all
> of them, so that if a particular item is bigger than the
> figure height, it will wrap correctly around the
> (inexistent) box, otherwise it will just side it.
>
> Interesting, the same thing does *not* happen when not going
> through a box, but typesetting things directly in the page.
> However, for my application I need to typeset the sidefloat
> and the itemization in a box, so I hit the bug ...
>
> Suggestions?
>
> --
> Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
Hi Giuseppe,
you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism.
\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
\usemodule[streams]
\definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth]
\newbox\giuseppe
\starttext
\startstreamlayer[giuseppe]
\placefigure
[outer,none,fit]
{}
{\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}}
\startitemize
\item some test
\item \input knuth
\item \input tufte
\stopitemize
\stopstreamlayer
\vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]}
\page
\startstreamlayer[giuseppe]
\placefigure
[outer,none,fit]
{}
{\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}}
\startitemize
\item some test
\item \input knuth
\item \input tufte
\stopitemize
\stopstreamlayer
\vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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* Re: Boxed items don't like sidefloats
2007-07-31 13:34 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2007-07-31 16:51 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2007-07-31 17:43 ` Hans Hagen
2007-07-31 20:30 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2007-07-31 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism.
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
> \usemodule[streams]
> \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth]
> \newbox\giuseppe
> \starttext
> \startstreamlayer[giuseppe]
> \placefigure
> [outer,none,fit]
> {}
> {\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}}
> \startitemize
> \item some test
> \item \input knuth
> \item \input tufte
> \stopitemize
> \stopstreamlayer
> \vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]}
> \stoptext
Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course,
I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox
wouldn't do it ...
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* Re: Boxed items don't like sidefloats
2007-07-31 16:51 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2007-07-31 17:43 ` Hans Hagen
2007-07-31 20:35 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-07-31 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism.
>
>> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
>
>> \usemodule[streams]
>> \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth]
>
>> \newbox\giuseppe
>
>> \starttext
>
>> \startstreamlayer[giuseppe]
>> \placefigure
>> [outer,none,fit]
>> {}
>> {\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}}
>
>> \startitemize
>> \item some test
>> \item \input knuth
>> \item \input tufte
>> \stopitemize
>> \stopstreamlayer
>
>> \vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]}
>
>> \stoptext
>
> Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course,
> I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox
> wouldn't do it ...
sidefloats hook into the output routine and that does ot work in a box;
streams intercept the page stream (nasty but neat); expect more of that
kind of stuff
Hans
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* Re: Boxed items don't like sidefloats
2007-07-31 13:34 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2007-07-31 16:51 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2007-07-31 20:30 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2007-07-31 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism.
> \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]
> \usemodule[streams]
> \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth]
I've noticed that specifying width= in the streamlayer
definition is not enough to force the stream width. If the
width is different from the textwidth, I have to use
something like
\startsetups streamlayer:giuseppe:settings
\overloadtextwidth\gbwidth
\stopsetups
I would have expected
\definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\gbwidth]
to handle this automatically though.
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* Re: Boxed items don't like sidefloats
2007-07-31 17:43 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-07-31 20:35 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2007-08-01 12:24 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2007-07-31 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:
> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>>
>> Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course,
>> I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox
>> wouldn't do it ...
> sidefloats hook into the output routine and that does ot work in a box;
Makes sense.
> streams intercept the page stream (nasty but neat); expect more of that
> kind of stuff
You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an
extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being
255 by default but which could be changed at runtime,
choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally
thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense
complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and
Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made
more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it
would have been a useful addition.
(Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that
luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see
that the project has been taken over when I disappeared
without a trace :P)
--
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* Re: Boxed items don't like sidefloats
2007-07-31 20:35 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2007-08-01 12:24 ` Hans Hagen
2007-08-01 18:34 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2007-08-01 12:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>>> Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course,
>>> I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox
>>> wouldn't do it ...
>
>> sidefloats hook into the output routine and that does ot work in a box;
>
> Makes sense.
>
>> streams intercept the page stream (nasty but neat); expect more of that
>> kind of stuff
>
> You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an
> extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being
> 255 by default but which could be changed at runtime,
> choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally
> thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense
> complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and
> Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made
> more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it
> would have been a useful addition.
this will become configurable in luatex
> (Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that
> luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see
> that the project has been taken over when I disappeared
> without a trace :P)
well, luatex renders aleph kind of obsolete -)
also, luatex has pdf output (also for aleph stuff)
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* Re: Boxed items don't like sidefloats
2007-08-01 12:24 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-08-01 18:34 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
2007-08-01 20:06 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2007-08-01 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wednesday, August 1, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:
> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>> You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an
>> extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being
>> 255 by default but which could be changed at runtime,
>> choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally
>> thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense
>> complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and
>> Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made
>> more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it
>> would have been a useful addition.
> this will become configurable in luatex
Ah, good to know.
>> (Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that
>> luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see
>> that the project has been taken over when I disappeared
>> without a trace :P)
> well, luatex renders aleph kind of obsolete -)
Yeah, I got that impression :)
> also, luatex has pdf output (also for aleph stuff)
This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also,
as part of my getting back into the loop, do you think
there's some where/some how I can give a hand?
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* Re: Boxed items don't like sidefloats
2007-08-01 18:34 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
@ 2007-08-01 20:06 ` Hans Hagen
2007-08-02 13:27 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also,
> as part of my �getting back into the loop�, do you think
> there's some where/some how I can give a hand?
well, mplib ... apart from going megapost (your speciality) 3d will be
added and since you're the mathemagician who can think in 6 dimensions ...
mplib will be linked into luatex
Hans
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* Re: Boxed items don't like sidefloats
2007-08-01 20:06 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2007-08-02 13:27 ` Giuseppe Bilotta
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From: Giuseppe Bilotta @ 2007-08-02 13:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wednesday, August 1, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:
> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>> This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also,
>> as part of my ?getting back into the loop?, do you think
>> there's some where/some how I can give a hand?
> well, mplib ... apart from going megapost (your speciality) 3d will be
> added and since you're the mathemagician who can think in 6 dimensions ...
Ah, this is something I can more probably involve my
university with. While my advisor doesn't care much about
TeX per se, numerical things are much more of its taste.
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