Can I use OpenType fonts with ConTeXt on Windows right now

Can I use OpenType fonts with ConTeXt on Windows right now

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello,

Thanks a lot for people who replied to my "OpenType in Windows"
topic. I have learned a lot about perspectives, but...
can someone make it clear -- CAN I use OpenType fonts with
ConTeXt on Windows right NOW (without conversion to other formats),
and, if possible, what I have to do to achieve it?

Thanks.

-- 
Best regards,
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

Re: Can I use OpenType fonts with ConTeXt on Windows right now

[Paul Schalck]

An easy way to test OpenType fonts with Context/Xetex from scratch under Windows (XP):

1. Get Texlive 2007

2. Install the Context collection with the Texlive Manager (Xetex is included)

3. Create a little test file:

\enableregime[utf]

\definetypeface[myface][ss][Xsans][Arial]%or any else font in your /windows/fonts folder; run "fc-list >namelist.txt" to get them all
\setupbodyfont[myface, 12pt]

\starttext
Hello World!
\stoptext

4. Run "texexec --xtx test.tex"


Sources:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Fonts_in_XeTeX
http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html
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Re: Can I use OpenType fonts with ConTeXt on Windows right now

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello Paul,

Thanks a lot for help with Xetex+Context on Windows.

And by the way, what is the "uc" encoding? It is not mentioned on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Encodings_and_Regimes

-- 
With best regards
 Vyatcheslav  Yatskovsky

Re: Can I use OpenType fonts with ConTeXt on Windows right now

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 4/13/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> Hello Paul,
>
> Thanks a lot for help with Xetex+Context on Windows.
>
> And by the way, what is the "uc" encoding? It is not mentioned on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Encodings_and_Regimes

That page should be improved. "uc" stands for Unicode. It might be
that it will become the default encoding for XeTeX in future anyway
(so that it will be possible to drop the explicit usage). "uc" is the
only encoding that makes sense in XeTeX since no other (except
texnansi by a pure chance) is supported there. And you cannot use "uc"
encoding in 8bit TeX (pdfTeX).

Btw: \enableregime[utf-8] is ignored in XeTeX: utf-8 is already the
default input regime.

Perhaps it might make sense to support other 8-bit regimes (it's only
one or two lines of modifications), but well ... the purpose of XeTeX
is too head towards future, not to look back into the past mess of
encodings.

Mojca

Re: Can I use OpenType fonts with ConTeXt on Windows right now

[Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky]

Hello Mojca,

Thanks a lot. In other words, XeTeX handles Unicode-coded fonts and the author creates UTF-coded documents.  Then those encodings are merged somewhere inside. Do I think right?


> On 4/13/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
>> Hello Paul,

>> Thanks a lot for help with Xetex+Context on Windows.

>> And by the way, what is the "uc" encoding? It is not mentioned on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Encodings_and_Regimes

> That page should be improved. "uc" stands for Unicode. It might be
> that it will become the default encoding for XeTeX in future anyway
> (so that it will be possible to drop the explicit usage). "uc" is the
> only encoding that makes sense in XeTeX since no other (except
> texnansi by a pure chance) is supported there. And you cannot use "uc"
> encoding in 8bit TeX (pdfTeX).

> Btw: \enableregime[utf-8] is ignored in XeTeX: utf-8 is already the
> default input regime.

> Perhaps it might make sense to support other 8-bit regimes (it's only
> one or two lines of modifications), but well ... the purpose of XeTeX
> is too head towards future, not to look back into the past mess of
> encodings.

> Mojca


-- 
Best regards,
Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky

Re: Can I use OpenType fonts with ConTeXt on Windows right now

[Mojca Miklavec]

I admit it. I admit everything. I'm the guily one for the whole mess
about XeTeX!

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Encodings_and_Regimes_in_XeTeX

Some time ago Hans has decided to ignore \enableregime in XeTeX. I
could have written more (and cite things), but I'm in a hurry right
now and I will probably be offline for the whole weekend.

The wiki pages need a massive adaption! Really.

On 4/13/07, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky <yatskovsky@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Mojca,
>
> And what is more, you have said that other input regimes should work as well, but the following fragment doesn't work. (arbitrary symbols are substituted)

I said that it could have worked ... I didn't say that it actually works ;)

\enableregime should be adapted in my opinion. I had a patch already,
but I don't have time to look for it right now. The following should
work though:

Either
    \XeTeXinputencoding "bytes"
% uncomment the line which prevents loading of regimes in XeTeX
    \enableregime[cp1251]

or
    \XeTeXinputencoding "cp1251"

> \enableregime[cp1251]
> \definetypeface[myface][rm][Xserif][Times New Roman]
> \setupbodyfont[myface, 12pt]
> \starttext
> Hello World!
> Привет!
> \stoptext
>
> (I really saved the file in that encoding - Windows Cyrillic, 1251)
>
> It is quite disappointing, because that encoding would cover my English-Russian-Ukrainian typesetting needs fully. UTF is amazing but not as convenient as cp1251.

There should really be no problem in adapting the \enableregime to
cover those regimes (it's really a simple patch). From the fact that
Hans added quite some new files and definitions during transition to
luaTeX ... I guess that he might still be willing to adapt that
behaviour in XeTeX as well.

Mojca
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