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[77.7.33.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b2sm10481857eep.9.2013.01.31.19.58.02 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:58:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.215.172; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03ISPW5EI - 6ff67d564c11 - 20130201 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:80584 Archived-At: --===============1278282385== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7874702C-79A0-464B-86DA-0D23790D97BF" --Apple-Mail=_7874702C-79A0-464B-86DA-0D23790D97BF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Am 31.01.2013 um 23:02 schrieb "Keith J. Schultz" = : > Hi Wolfgang, >=20 > You do seem to understand what I am getting at! >=20 > I purposely put "paragraph" in quotes. because the environment that I = have suggest was > one that had setups for bodyfont, color, indenting etc. and one can = just like the headers > have control over them. \startsetups[paragraph:german] \language[german] \stopsetups \startsetups[paragraph:double] \setupinterlinespace[big] \stopsetups \startsetups[paragraph:indenting] \setupindenting[yes,medium] \stopsetups \defineparagraph[german][setups=3Dparagraph:german] \defineparagraph[big] [setups=3Dparagraph:double] \defineparagraph[indent][setups=3Dparagraph:indenting] \defineparagraph[red] [color=3Dred] \defineparagraph[italic][style=3Ditalic] \setupwhitespace[line] \starttext \startparagraph \input reich \stopparagraph \startparagraph[german] \input reich \stopparagraph \startparagraph[big] \input reich \stopparagraph \startparagraph[indent] \input reich \stopparagraph \startparagraph[red] \input reich \stopparagraph \startparagraph[italic] \input reich \stopparagraph \stoptext > Furthermore, you have stated on the on the 30th: >=20 >> ConTeXt provides also a paragraph environment but this add only tags = when you export the document >> as XML or create a tagged PDF. >>=20 >> The paragraphs (note the "s") environment has a Hans already = mentioned nothing to do with paragraphs, >> it just puts the content on columns where each column can con tai = multiple paragraphs. The name >> for the environment is misleading because columns is already taken as = name. >=20 > Thank you anyway. I will look into creating what I need on my own. I = already have an idea. > Just need to figure out the implementation. You can use \definestartsetup or \definebuffer to create your own = environments. Wolfgang --Apple-Mail=_7874702C-79A0-464B-86DA-0D23790D97BF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii keithjschultz@web.de>:
Hi = Wolfgang,

You do seem to understand what I am getting = at!

I purposely put "paragraph" in quotes. = because the environment that I have suggest was
one that had = setups for bodyfont, color, indenting etc. and one can just like the = headers
have control over = them.

\startsetups[= paragraph:german]
  = \language[german]
\stopsetups

\startset= ups[paragraph:double]
  = \setupinterlinespace[big]
\stopsetups

\= startsetups[paragraph:indenting]
  = \setupindenting[yes,medium]
\stopsetups

\defineparagraph[german][setups=3Dparagraph:german]
\definepara= graph[big]   = [setups=3Dparagraph:double]
\defineparagraph[indent][setups=3Dpa= ragraph:indenting]
\defineparagraph[red]   = [color=3Dred]
\defineparagraph[italic][style=3Ditalic]

\setupwhitespace[line]

\starttext=

\startparagraph
\input = reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[ge= rman]
\input = reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[bi= g]
\input = reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[in= dent]
\input = reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[re= d]
\input = reich
\stopparagraph

\startparagraph[it= alic]
\input = reich
\stopparagraph

\stoptext

Furthermore, you have stated on the on the = 30th:

ConTeXt provides also a paragraph = environment but this add only tags when you export the = document
as XML or create a tagged = PDF.

The paragraphs (note the "s") environment has a Hans = already mentioned nothing to do with paragraphs,
it just puts the content on columns where each column can = con tai multiple paragraphs. The name
for the = environment is misleading because columns is already taken as = name.