pdf viewers

pdf viewers

[Matthew Huggett]

Hi:

Does anyone know of an alternative to Xpdf or Acrobat for Linux?  Xpdf 
seems really slow and the fonts look bad, and Acrobat under Linux is 
just not as good as it is under Windows.  

Best wishes,

Matt

Re: pdf viewers

[Hans Hagen]

At 01:49 PM 1/13/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>Hi:
>
>Does anyone know of an alternative to Xpdf or Acrobat for Linux?  Xpdf 
>seems really slow and the fonts look bad, and Acrobat under Linux is just 
>not as good as it is under Windows.

ghostscript/view is ok, but slower as well; it does not support the 
interactive features other than simple hyperlinks (i wonder why this is not 
implemented) [btw, is acrobat that bad under linux? runs ok here 
(vmware+suse on win2k)

Hans


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Re[2]: pdf viewers

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Monday, January 13, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote:

HH> ghostscript/view is ok, but slower as well; it does not support the
HH> interactive features other than simple hyperlinks (i wonder why this is not 
HH> implemented)

I asked about it to the GSView programmer some time ago. /pdfmark
support for standard hyperlinks in PDFs is just an
easy-to-implement plus, which is why it's there. GSView is a
*PostScript* viewer, not a PDF one :)

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Re[2]: pdf viewers

[Hans Hagen]

At 02:35 PM 1/13/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>Monday, January 13, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>HH> ghostscript/view is ok, but slower as well; it does not support the
>HH> interactive features other than simple hyperlinks (i wonder why this 
>is not
>HH> implemented)
>
>I asked about it to the GSView programmer some time ago. /pdfmark
>support for standard hyperlinks in PDFs is just an
>easy-to-implement plus, which is why it's there. GSView is a
>*PostScript* viewer, not a PDF one :)

so, how about a challenge ...

Hans


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Re[3]: pdf viewers

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Monday, January 13, 2003 Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>HH> ghostscript/view is ok, but slower as well; it does not support the
>>HH> interactive features other than simple hyperlinks (i wonder why this 
>>is not
>>HH> implemented)
>>
>>I asked about it to the GSView programmer some time ago. /pdfmark
>>support for standard hyperlinks in PDFs is just an
>>easy-to-implement plus, which is why it's there. GSView is a
>>*PostScript* viewer, not a PDF one :)

HH> so, how about a challenge ...

It's not something "challenging" to implement --it's a waste of
time, in the opinion of the author :) (ok, maybe really not a
"waste", but too much time to be spent on something the tool is
not intended for).

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Re: pdf viewers

[Henning Hraban Ramm]

> Does anyone know of an alternative to Xpdf or Acrobat for Linux?  Xpdf 
> seems really slow and the fonts look bad, and Acrobat under Linux is 
> just not as good as it is under Windows.
> Best wishes,

Did you try xpdf 2.x? It's a bit better than older versions, but still 
far from Acrobat...
You can view PDFs with some GhostScript viewers also, but my 
experiences (on Linux/PPC where exists no Acrobat) told me to use Xpdf 
until I switched to MacOS X...

Grüßlis vom Hraban!
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Re: pdf viewers

[John Culleton]

On Monday 13 January 2003 08:30, Hans Hagen wrote:
> At 01:49 PM 1/13/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>[btw, is acrobat that bad under linux? runs ok
> here (vmware+suse on win2k)
>

Acrobat Reader under Linux is limited to Version 4. On Windows you get
Version 5 which has more bells and whistles. But I use ver. 4 all the
time. 

John Culleton
Able Indexers and Typesetters 
Rowse Reviews
Culleton Editorial Services
http://wexfordpress.com

Re: pdf viewers

[Richard Mahoney]

On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 09:59:03PM +0000, John Culleton wrote:
> On Monday 13 January 2003 08:30, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > At 01:49 PM 1/13/2003 +0900, you wrote:
> >[btw, is acrobat that bad under linux? runs ok
> > here (vmware+suse on win2k)
> >
> 
> Acrobat Reader under Linux is limited to Version 4. On Windows you get
> Version 5 which has more bells and whistles. But I use ver. 4 all the
> time. 

contra!

I'm using the following on a FreeBSD box under Linux `emulation':

 acroread-5.06_1  =   up-to-date with port

If I recall correctly its much faster than 4*


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 Richard Mahoney


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Re: pdf viewers

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:59 PM 1/13/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>On Monday 13 January 2003 08:30, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > At 01:49 PM 1/13/2003 +0900, you wrote:
> >[btw, is acrobat that bad under linux? runs ok
> > here (vmware+suse on win2k)
> >
>
>Acrobat Reader under Linux is limited to Version 4. On Windows you get
>Version 5 which has more bells and whistles. But I use ver. 4 all the
>time.

hm, just to make sure i resume my slumbering linux system and saw acrobat 
5.05 performing quit well on it; actually, 5.05 was there for linux before 
it came available for windows


Hans

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Re: pdf viewers

[Matthew Huggett]

The main reason I was asking about pdf viewers in the first place is 
that both Xpdf and Acrobat 5.* (Linux) seem to load pages much more 
slowly than Acrobat under Windows.  Xpdf is just rediculous.  And 
Acrobat is slow with large files like our beloved ConTeXt manuals.  I've 
changed my preference from pdf to ps because GGV is so much better 
(IMHO) than the available pdf viewers and I hardly ever write 
interactive documents.


Richard Mahoney wrote:

>On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 09:59:03PM +0000, John Culleton wrote:
>  
>
>>On Monday 13 January 2003 08:30, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>At 01:49 PM 1/13/2003 +0900, you wrote:
>>>[btw, is acrobat that bad under linux? runs ok
>>>here (vmware+suse on win2k)
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Acrobat Reader under Linux is limited to Version 4. On Windows you get
>>Version 5 which has more bells and whistles. But I use ver. 4 all the
>>time. 
>>    
>>
>
>contra!
>
>I'm using the following on a FreeBSD box under Linux `emulation':
>
> acroread-5.06_1  =   up-to-date with port
>
>If I recall correctly its much faster than 4*
>
>
>Regards,
>
> Richard Mahoney
>
>
>  
>