* OpenType and XeConTeXt
@ 2006-02-14 10:22 Steffen Wolfrum
2006-02-14 12:46 ` Adam Lindsay
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From: Steffen Wolfrum @ 2006-02-14 10:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: Adam Lindsay
Hi,
using ConTeXt with XeTeX seems to be an nice option for us MacOSX users.
But I get always confused with the names for these rich features like
Style Option, Ligatures, Variants.
I mean: how do I know how many variants and style options a font has
and how they and their ligatures etc. want to be called?
In plain ConTeXt (for the 255 characters) we can use \showfont[...]
and \showcharacters in order to know how to call the specific
characters/glyphs. But what about OpenType?
Peeking at the LaTeX side of XeTeX, I saw that they have created a
packages called fontspec which seems to give better access to all (?)
if these options.
What about us? Is there help also for XeConTeXt?
Thank you,
Steffen
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* Re: OpenType and XeConTeXt
2006-02-14 10:22 OpenType and XeConTeXt Steffen Wolfrum
@ 2006-02-14 12:46 ` Adam Lindsay
2006-02-15 11:52 ` Charles Doherty
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From: Adam Lindsay @ 2006-02-14 12:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> using ConTeXt with XeTeX seems to be an nice option for us MacOSX users.
> But I get always confused with the names for these rich features like
> Style Option, Ligatures, Variants.
>
> I mean: how do I know how many variants and style options a font has and
> how they and their ligatures etc. want to be called?
> In plain ConTeXt (for the 255 characters) we can use \showfont[...] and
> \showcharacters in order to know how to call the specific
> characters/glyphs. But what about OpenType?
\showfont is limited to unicode's 0-255 slots, but it's functional:
\showfont["Book Antiqua"]
> Peeking at the LaTeX side of XeTeX, I saw that they have created a
> packages called fontspec which seems to give better access to all (?) if
> these options.
>
> What about us? Is there help also for XeConTeXt?
I find that the lcdf typetools are a tremendous help:
> otfinfo -f ~/Library/Fonts/WarnockPro-Regular.otf
aalt Access All Alternates
c2sc Small Capitals From Capitals
case Case-Sensitive Forms
cpsp Capital Spacing
cswh Contextual Swash
dlig Discretionary Ligatures
dnom Denominators
fina Terminal Forms
frac Fractions
hist Historical Forms
kern Kerning
liga Standard Ligatures
lnum Lining Figures
numr Numerators
onum Oldstyle Figures
ordn Ordinals
ornm Ornaments
pnum Proportional Figures
salt Stylistic Alternates
sinf Scientific Inferiors
size Optical Size
smcp Small Capitals
sups Superscript
tnum Tabular Figures
zero Slashed Zero
and I can test the features with:
\showfont["Warnock Pro: +smcp"]
Fontspec is an impressive piece of work, but I think it's driven much
more by the 'possible' than by requirements. My time constraints (i.e.,
daughter) won't let me do that sort of exploratory coding anymore. I can
try and help out with concrete requests, though.
[I feel like a lot of the stuff I've done in this space has been
released into a vacuum, and that few people are actually making stuff
with OpenType and/or XeConTeXt.]
adam
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* Re: OpenType and XeConTeXt
2006-02-14 12:46 ` Adam Lindsay
@ 2006-02-15 11:52 ` Charles Doherty
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From: Charles Doherty @ 2006-02-15 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 14 Feb 2006, at 12:46, Adam Lindsay wrote:
> [I feel like a lot of the stuff I've done in this space has been
> released into a vacuum, and that few people are actually making stuff
> with OpenType and/or XeConTeXt.]
Dear Adam,
You helped me get XeConTeXt up and running and I have been quietly
using it and have great pleasure in doing so. Thank you very much
again. I suppose it is, as is the case with a lot of areas, that you
don't hear from people until they have a problem. Which brings me to
this. I have lost my settings for XeConTeXt during upgrades of TeX/
ConTeXt and have recovered by using the information on the
ConTeXtwiki but recently this does not seem to work anymore (or
perhaps I have done something stupid). I noticed new advice in a
recent e-mail:
> On Feb 12, 2006, at 8:49 PM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>
>
>> This is XeTeX, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.99b (Web2C 7.5.3)
>> (WARNING: translate-file "natural.tcx" ignored)
>> ---! /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/cont-en.fmt was
>> written by pdfetex
>>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> That's the problem. If you want both xetex and pdftex, you need to
> have two different format-files, both called cont-en.fmt. They need
> to be in two different subdirectories:
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/pdfetex [for pdfetex]
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/xetex [for xetex]
>
> Remove the cont-*.fmt files in the .../web2c directory and regenerate
> the formats with texexec.
>
but trying this has not worked for me either. In an e-mail Jonathan
Kew suggested he might look into creating an installation script for
XeTeX and I encouraged him to do so. In the meantime do you know if
the procedure for getting XeConTeX up and running has changed and if
so what should I do. I have an iMac G5 10.4.4 and the latest TeX
using Gerben's installer.
There is at least this voice in the vacuum ready to bother you.
Thanks,
Charlie
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