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From: Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:35:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <19FBDAFF-AC9E-48D4-ACD5-34EB76E8E146@fiee.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D4495D93-518A-48B0-B302-6E5B6363C8A8@gmail.com>



> Am 24.04.2020 um 11:13 schrieb Benjamin Buchmuller <benjamin.buchmuller@gmail.com>:
> 
> Although this specific issue might have been solved meanwhile by the helpful suggestions of Wolfang, Thomas and others, I would like to point out that I have recently also encountered an odd behaviour of the mtxrun fontloader in the standalone, in which not all typefaces are available/properly identified.
> 
> (I’m sorry to hijack this thread if this is unrelated.)
> 
> Basically, when I load “Helvetica Neue”, I get instead of “regular/normal” always “light/italic”.
> 
> I have switched to heros for the meantime, but potentially there is some bug behind this. (My documents with the version from Dec/Jan worked fine.)
> 
> I recite my example from Wed:
> 
> ConTeXt  ver: 2020.01.30 14:13 MKIV beta  fmt: 2020.4.22 (LuaTeX 1.11.1)
> 
> and I’m running now into troubles with system font indexing:
> 
> mtxrun --script fonts --reload
> 
> locates fonts in macOS directories appropriately (*.afm fonts placed in .../tex/texmf-fonts are not found, but at the moment I don’t care too much), however it resolves only to a single font variant for *.ttc instead of all variants:
> 
> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=helvetica
> 
> helvetica                         helvetica                    helveticalightoblique         /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    6
> helveticalightoblique             helvetica                    helveticalightoblique         /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    6
> helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy   helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy   /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   10
> helveticaneuethinitalic           helveticaneue                helveticaneuethinitalic       /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                14

If the subfont is not listed, ConTeXt/mtxrun couldn’t find it and won’t find it regardless of your setup.

Try
mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force
maybe even twice or thrice and check again.
(Unfortunately this is not reliable.)

I get the full list:

identifier                               familyname                   fontname                                   filename                                               subfont   instances

helvetica                                helvetica                    helvetica                                  /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    1
helveticaneueblack                       helveticaneue                helveticaneuecondensedblack                /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                10
helveticaneuedeskinterfaceextrabold      helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy            /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   10
helveticaneuedeskinterfaceextralight     helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfacethin             /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   8
helveticaneuedeskinterfacemedium         helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediump4         /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   5
helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediumitalic   helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediumitalicp4   /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   6
helveticaneuedeskinterfacenormal         helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfaceregular          /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   1
helveticaneueextralight                  helveticaneue                helveticaneuethin                          /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                13
helveticaneuenormal                      helveticaneue                helveticaneue                              /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                1
helveticaneueregular                     helveticaneue                helveticaneue                              /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                1
helveticanormal                          helvetica                    helvetica                                  /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    1
helveticaregular                         helvetica                    helvetica                                  /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    1



> As a consequence, when I run
> 
> \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Helvetica Neue]
> \setupbodyfont[mainface, 12pt, sans]
> 
> I get the light oblique variant instead of the regular one. I have tried to fix this via a 
> 
> \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Helvetica Neue][tf=style:normal]

tf=helveticaregular
should work.


Best, Hraban

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24  9:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.295.1587711236.1194.ntg-context@ntg.nl>
2020-04-24  9:13 ` Benjamin Buchmuller
2020-04-24  9:35   ` Henning Hraban Ramm [this message]
2020-04-24  9:56     ` Taco Hoekwater
2020-04-24 12:24       ` Gerben Wierda
2020-04-24 12:42         ` Taco Hoekwater
2020-04-24 10:14 Benjamin Buchmuller
2020-04-24 10:18 ` Taco Hoekwater
2020-04-26 12:22 ` Benjamin Buchmuller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-04-23 14:00 Basic font question Gerben Wierda
2020-04-23 14:16 ` Vladimir Lomov
2020-04-23 14:22   ` Gerben Wierda
2020-04-23 14:34     ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-04-23 14:42       ` Gerben Wierda
2020-04-23 17:18         ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-04-23 21:57           ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics) Gerben Wierda
2020-04-24  0:10             ` Vladimir Lomov
2020-04-24  3:19               ` kaddour kardio
2020-04-24  6:09                 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-04-24  6:48                   ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works Gerben Wierda
2020-04-24  6:53                     ` Wolfgang Schuster
2020-04-24  7:21                       ` Gerben Wierda
2020-04-24  7:37                         ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2020-04-24  6:54                     ` Henning Hraban Ramm

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