From: Benjamin Buchmuller <benjamin.buchmuller@gmail.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2020 14:22:11 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1A9AE7A2-E3CD-4701-813D-7F13D57C9F1C@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D9B71EA6-E61F-43D7-B3EF-AABEF13D4878@gmail.com>
The problem seems to be resolved. Thanks to everyone, especially Hans, Taco and Wolfgang for the fast fix (offlist)!
After updating to
ConTeXt ver: 2020.01.30 14:13 MKIV beta fmt: 2020.4.26
Helvetica Neue works with:
==========================
\starttypescript [sans] [helvet]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [file:Helvetica Neue.ttc(Helvetica Neue)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [file:Helvetica Neue.ttc(Helvetica Neue Bold)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Helvetica Neue.ttc(Helvetica Neue Italic)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Helvetica Neue.ttc(Helvetica Neue Bold Italic)] [features=default]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [helvet] [ss] [sans] [helvet] [default]
\setupbodyfont [helvet, 12pt]
Optima works with:
==================
\starttypescript [sans] [optima]
\setups[font:fallback:sans]
\definefontsynonym [Sans] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Regular)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBold] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Italic)] [features=default]
\definefontsynonym [SansBoldItalic] [file:Optima.ttc(Optima Bold Italic)] [features=default]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface [optima] [ss] [sans] [optima] [default]
\setupbodyfont [optima]
\starttext
\tf Upright,
\bf Bold,
\it Italic,
\bi Bolditalic
\stoptext
Note 1: mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=helvetica etc. might still not display all variants correctly in the first place.
Note 2: There are predefined typescripts for Mac OS in ConTeXt (type-imp-osx.mkiv) but the file needs a update/cleanup.
> On 24 Apr 2020, at 12:14, Benjamin Buchmuller <benjamin.buchmuller@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Hraban,
>
> Thanks for the hint (and the proper fontfamily setup), I have forced reload ten times now from various accounts; the issue persists unfortunately.
>
> This might confirm Taco‘s notion that there is some bug lmtx. I’m running macOS Catalina too, but as it worked with the standalone of Dec/Jan three days ago, I suspect it is not because of a new feature in the OS, but rather an old feature in mtxrun or elsewhere having disappeared.
>
>> On 24. Apr 2020, at 11:35, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Am 24.04.2020 um 11:13 schrieb Benjamin Buchmuller <benjamin.buchmuller@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>> Although this specific issue might have been solved meanwhile by the helpful suggestions of Wolfang, Thomas and others, I would like to point out that I have recently also encountered an odd behaviour of the mtxrun fontloader in the standalone, in which not all typefaces are available/properly identified.
>>>
>>> (I’m sorry to hijack this thread if this is unrelated.)
>>>
>>> Basically, when I load “Helvetica Neue”, I get instead of “regular/normal” always “light/italic”.
>>>
>>> I have switched to heros for the meantime, but potentially there is some bug behind this. (My documents with the version from Dec/Jan worked fine.)
>>>
>>> I recite my example from Wed:
>>>
>>> ConTeXt ver: 2020.01.30 14:13 MKIV beta fmt: 2020.4.22 (LuaTeX 1.11.1)
>>>
>>> and I’m running now into troubles with system font indexing:
>>>
>>> mtxrun --script fonts --reload
>>>
>>> locates fonts in macOS directories appropriately (*.afm fonts placed in .../tex/texmf-fonts are not found, but at the moment I don’t care too much), however it resolves only to a single font variant for *.ttc instead of all variants:
>>>
>>> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=helvetica
>>>
>>> helvetica helvetica helveticalightoblique /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 6
>>> helveticalightoblique helvetica helveticalightoblique /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 6
>>> helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 10
>>> helveticaneuethinitalic helveticaneue helveticaneuethinitalic /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 14
>>
>> If the subfont is not listed, ConTeXt/mtxrun couldn’t find it and won’t find it regardless of your setup.
>>
>> Try
>> mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force
>> maybe even twice or thrice and check again.
>> (Unfortunately this is not reliable.)
>>
>> I get the full list:
>>
>> identifier familyname fontname filename subfont instances
>>
>> helvetica helvetica helvetica /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 1
>> helveticaneueblack helveticaneue helveticaneuecondensedblack /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 10
>> helveticaneuedeskinterfaceextrabold helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 10
>> helveticaneuedeskinterfaceextralight helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfacethin /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 8
>> helveticaneuedeskinterfacemedium helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediump4 /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 5
>> helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediumitalic helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediumitalicp4 /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 6
>> helveticaneuedeskinterfacenormal helveticaneuedeskinterface helveticaneuedeskinterfaceregular /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc 1
>> helveticaneueextralight helveticaneue helveticaneuethin /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 13
>> helveticaneuenormal helveticaneue helveticaneue /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 1
>> helveticaneueregular helveticaneue helveticaneue /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc 1
>> helveticanormal helvetica helvetica /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 1
>> helveticaregular helvetica helvetica /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc 1
>>
>>
>>
>>> As a consequence, when I run
>>>
>>> \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Helvetica Neue]
>>> \setupbodyfont[mainface, 12pt, sans]
>>>
>>> I get the light oblique variant instead of the regular one. I have tried to fix this via a
>>>
>>> \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Helvetica Neue][tf=style:normal]
>>
>> tf=helveticaregular
>> should work.
>>
>>
>> Best, Hraban
>>
>>
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2020-04-24 10:14 Benjamin Buchmuller
2020-04-24 10:18 ` Taco Hoekwater
2020-04-26 12:22 ` Benjamin Buchmuller [this message]
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2020-04-24 9:13 ` Benjamin Buchmuller
2020-04-24 9:35 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-04-24 9:56 ` Taco Hoekwater
2020-04-24 12:24 ` Gerben Wierda
2020-04-24 12:42 ` Taco Hoekwater
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2020-04-23 14:00 Basic font question Gerben Wierda
2020-04-23 14:16 ` Vladimir Lomov
2020-04-23 14:22 ` Gerben Wierda
2020-04-23 14:34 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-04-23 14:42 ` Gerben Wierda
2020-04-23 17:18 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-04-23 21:57 ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics) Gerben Wierda
2020-04-24 0:10 ` Vladimir Lomov
2020-04-24 3:19 ` kaddour kardio
2020-04-24 6:09 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
2020-04-24 6:48 ` Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works Gerben Wierda
2020-04-24 6:53 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2020-04-24 7:21 ` Gerben Wierda
2020-04-24 7:37 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2020-04-24 6:54 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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