From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/30823 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: YABQ (yet another bib question...) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:05:39 +0200 Message-ID: <1B07FE43-2D63-407E-AD57-914C8AF91888@uni-bonn.de> References: <4504138A.9030008@elvenkind.com> <9BDD8527-9C5A-4568-B754-02047069EF92@uni-bonn.de> <450A5CE5.5070307@elvenkind.com> <56F339C9-40B5-4D0F-8310-4AB388899CDF@uni-bonn.de> <450A76CB.4040502@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1158315122 1111 80.91.229.2 (15 Sep 2006 10:12:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 10:12:02 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Sep 15 12:11:59 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GOAfs-0002j6-CW for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:11:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA3A71FD91; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:11:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05818-01; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:11:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CF81FCCA; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:11:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 929201FCCA for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:11:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 05803-01 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:11:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 3149B1FC9B for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:11:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fwd35.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1GOAfk-0004JH-01; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:11:48 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (b7JWmBZHQeQiLrVYvzKhVKlQwjQJwRtWtT1cMgrdkTtBYPNo5-bd8k@[84.172.89.114]) by fwd35.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1GOAan-28HtlA0; Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:06:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <450A76CB.4040502@elvenkind.com> Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ID: b7JWmBZHQeQiLrVYvzKhVKlQwjQJwRtWtT1cMgrdkTtBYPNo5-bd8k@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 78dd1f66-41c7-48db-81f0-c8ff821c1e5a X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:30823 Archived-At: On Sep 15, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: >> IMHO, bibtex should now generate keys such as Hoek2006a and Hoek2006b >> or authoryear references like Hoekwater (2006a) and Hoekwater >> (2006b), but it should not (!) append the "a" and "b" to the years in >> the bibliographic list itself. > > Actually, sometimes it should, namely in authoryear styles with > the list in database ordering as opposed to cite ordering. Oh dear, once you go into the gory details of bibliographies, there's no end to it... > >> But I may be wrong here - what do you >> and other users say? Should the (2006) in the example above come out >> as "(2006a)" and "(2006b)"? And as I was suggesting: if you use >> numered references, I think it would be best to just switch maybeyear >> off completely, so my suggestion would be to have a switch "maybeyear >> = on/off" for the \setuppublicationlist. > > Sure, that is simple. Will upload in a few minutes > > Taco Thanks Taco, that's sweet. Maybe other users can chime in. I'm still thinking whether it would be useful to add an option that would append maybeyyear only to the reference key, not to the list... Such as a bibliographic style that would produce this sort of list: Hoekwater 2006a = Hoekwater, "Article 1," JournalA 2 (2006) 20--30 Hoekwater 2006b = Hoekwater, "Article 2," JournalB 2 (2006) 30--40 But disregard this if you think it's silly or if it's too difficult to implement.