From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/25513 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Thomas A. Schmitz" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Problem with German quotes and kerning Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:18:17 +0100 Message-ID: <1BFDD604-4DEB-41EE-8B78-61A4811B8160@uni-bonn.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138018779 26028 80.91.229.2 (23 Jan 2006 12:19:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 12:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Jan 23 13:19:36 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F10f3-0002GM-3y for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:19:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73DC6127C6; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:19:04 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03845-01-4; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:19:01 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B5B0127C9; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:19:01 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6DEF127C9 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:18:59 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 03845-01-3 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:18:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id DA997127C6 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:18:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1F10ew-0002UZ-00; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:18:58 +0100 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (EwP32qZD8eU18UPH0iz5BAtm6g8RzNvo4Qd3qEJOOgSnGPOQeyHh4v@[84.172.91.202]) by fwd28.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1F10es-0zdhiK0; Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:18:54 +0100 Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) X-ID: EwP32qZD8eU18UPH0iz5BAtm6g8RzNvo4Qd3qEJOOgSnGPOQeyHh4v@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 82893036-8f33-45a9-afa0-cbbf4075b1eb X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:25513 Archived-At: Hi all, this seems to be a general TeX-problem, not ConTeXt specific, but I'm =20= not sure I understand the details. Here's the problem: when I use =20 mainlanguage[de], I can type "` to get German opening quotes, =20 \quotedblbase =84. However, this characters needs some (a lot of) =20 kerning when it comes before, e.g., W or V; it is too far away from =20 the following character. Most font-designers don't care about German =20 typography, so I tried and added the kerning manually. But this works =20= only if I input the character directly via the keyboard or via the =20 symbolic name, it does not work with "` (nor with \quotation{ }); =20 language German seems to make the ` active. In emacs, I find "` the =20 most convenient way to input German quotes. Is there a way to have =20 kerning with this input, or do I have to change my habits? Best Thomas=