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I found that the following worked (apart from in two or three cases): \startluacode fonts.handlers.otf.addfeature { name =3D "iebpkerns", type =3D "kern", data =3D { [")"] =3D { [","] =3D -80, ["."] =3D -80, [":"] =3D -80, [";"] =3D -80, [")"] =3D -80, ["]"] =3D -80, }, ["]"] =3D { [","] =3D -80, ["."] =3D -80, [":"] =3D -80, [";"] =3D -80, [")"] =3D -80, ["]"] =3D -80, }, }, } \stopluacode Best, Richard -----Original Message----- From: Hans Hagen To: mailing list for ConTeXt users , Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Space after Round bracket before Punctuation Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:21:02 +0200 Mailer: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 On 7/9/2020 11:59 AM, Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica wrote: > I'm typesetting some proceedings which include a good number of > roundbrackets followed by punctuation. This often occurs in the body > of thetext, but also in the hand coded bibliographies, e.g.: > ) plus . , ; : > The trouble is that excessive space is often introduced between > thebracket and the punctuation. I can control the excessive space > thatsometimes occurs between ) and . by using )\periods[1], although > thisruins the protrusion if it occurs at the end of a line. > Does anyone know how I might be able to somehow "tie" ) to . , ; : > sothat the distance remains reasonable, and so that protrusion > stillworks? you first have to make an MWE that demonstrates how protrusion works here ... then we can see how we can best deal with it Anyway, often tricks for this can be found in the test suite of font manual(s) ... here is a variant ... \startluacode fonts.handlers.otf.addfeature { name =3D "mykerns", type =3D "kern", data =3D { [")"] =3D { [","] =3D -300, ["."] =3D -300, [":"] =3D -250, [";"] =3D -250, [")"] =3D -100, }, }, }\stopluacode \definefontfeature[default][default][mykerns=3Dtrue] \setupbodyfont [dejavu,12pt] \startTEXpage[offset=3D10pt] whatever), whatever): whatever) ; whatever). whatever))\stopTEXpage Hans --------------------------------------------------------------- -- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl |=20 www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- --=20 Richard Mahoney | Indica et Buddhica Littledene Bay Road Oxford NZT: +64 3 312 1699 M: +64 210 640 216IM: @rmaho= ney https://t.me/rmahoneyrmahoney@indica-et-buddhica.org https://indica-et-buddhica.org/ --=-TaMRgLjH17AhMfDCDV8z Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank=20you=20Hans,=20this=20was=20very=20helpful.=20I=20fou= nd=20that=20the=20following
worked=20(apart=20from=20in=20two=20o= r=20three=20cases):

\startluacode
 =     fonts.handlers.otf.addfeature=20{
 &= nbsp;       name    =  =3D=20"iebpkerns",
      &nbs= p;  type     =3D=20"kern",
&nb= sp;        data   &n= bsp; =3D=20{
        = ;     [")"]=20=3D=20{
   =             &nb= sp; [","]=20=3D=20-80,
      &= nbsp;          ["."]=20= =3D=20-80,
         =         [":"]=20=3D=20-80,
            &= nbsp;    [";"]=20=3D=20-80,
   = ;            &n= bsp; [")"]=20=3D=20-80,
      =            ["]"]=20= =3D=20-80,
         =     },
      &n= bsp;      ["]"]=20=3D=20{
 &nb= sp;            =    [","]=20=3D=20-80,
    &nbs= p;            [= "."]=20=3D=20-80,
        = ;         [":"]=20=3D=20-80,
           =       [";"]=20=3D=20-80,
 &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;  [")"]=20=3D=20-80,
     = ;            ["= ]"]=20=3D=20-80,
        =      },
     &n= bsp;   },
     }
\stopluacode



Best,=20Richard



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Richard=20Mahoney=20|=20Indica=20et=20Buddhica

Littl= edene=20Bay=20Road=20Oxford=20NZT:=20+64=203=20312=201699=20M:=20+64= =20210=20640=20216IM:=20@rmahoney=20rmahoney@indica-et-buddhica.org
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-----Or= iginal=20Message-----
From:=20Hans=20Hagen=20<j.hagen@xs4all.nl>= ;
To:=20mailing=20list=20for=20ConTeXt=20users=20<ntg-context@ntg.nl>,=20Richard
Mahoney=20|=20Indica=20et= =20Buddhica=20<rmahoney@indica-et-bud= dhica.org>
Subject:=20Re:=20[NTG-context]=20Space= =20after=20Round=20bracket=20before
Punctuation
Date:= =20Thu,=209=20Jul=202020=2012:21:02=20+0200
Mailer:=20Mozi= lla/5.0=20(Windows=20NT=2010.0;=20Win64;=20x64;=20rv:68.0)
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On=207/9/2020=2011:59=20AM,=20Richard=20Mahoney=20|=20Indica=20et=
=20Buddhica=20wrote:
I'm=20typesetting=20some=20proceedings=20which=20=
include=20a=20good=20number=20of
round
brackets=20followed=20b=
y=20punctuation.=20This=20often=20occurs=20in=20the=20body
of=20the
text,=20but=20also=20in=20the=20hand=20coded=20bibliographies,=20e.g.=
:

)=20plus=20.=20,=20;=20:

The=20trouble=20is=20that=20excessive=20space=20is=20often=20introduced=
=20between=20the
bracket=20and=20the=20punctuation.=20I=20can=20c=
ontrol=20the=20excessive=20space=20that
sometimes=20occurs=20betw=
een=20)=20and=20.=20by=20using=20)\periods[1],=20although=20this
=
ruins=20the=20protrusion=20if=20it=20occurs=20at=20the=20end=20of=20a=20lin=
e.

Does=20anyone=20know=20how=20I=20might=20be=20a=
ble=20to=20somehow=20"tie"=20)=20to=20.=20,=20;=20:=20so
that=20t=
he=20distance=20remains=20reasonable,=20and=20so=20that=20protrusion=20stil=
l
works?
you=20first=20have=20to=20make=20=
an=20MWE=20that=20demonstrates=20how=20protrusion=20works=20
here=
=20...=20then=20we=20can=20see=20how=20we=20can=20best=20deal=20with=20it

Anyway,=20often=20tricks=20for=20this=20can=20be=20=
found=20in=20the=20test=20suite=20of=20font=20
manual(s)=20...=20=
here=20is=20a=20variant=20...

\startluacode
<=
pre>=20=20=20=20=20fonts.handlers.otf.addfeature=20{
=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20name=20=20=20=20=20=3D=20"mykerns",
=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20type=20=20=20=20=20=3D=20"kern",
=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20data=20=20=20=20=20=3D=20{
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20[")"]=20=3D=20{
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20[","]=20=3D=20-300,
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20["."]=20=3D=20-300,
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20[":"]=20=3D=20-250,
=20=20=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20[";"]=20=3D=20-250,
=20=20=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20[")"]=20=3D=20-100,
=20=
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20},
=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=
=20},
=20=20=20=20=20}
\stopluacode

\definefontfeature[default][default][mykerns=3Dtrue]

\setupbodyfont=20[dejavu,12pt]

\startTEXp=
age[offset=3D10pt]
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=20=20=20=20=
=20whatever).
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\stopTEXpage

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