From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/19575 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas A.Schmitz Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: chancery font Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:22:37 +0200 Message-ID: <1e598136798675448f1f89689e76d69d@uni-bonn.de> References: <42AE6611@webmail.colostate.edu> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112559808 10862 80.91.229.2 (3 Apr 2005 20:23:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Apr 03 22:23:27 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DIBch-0006ZM-61 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:23:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB731290E; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:24:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04821-10-8; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:24:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6696128FB; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:24:45 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B94128FB for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:24:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04821-10-7 for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:24:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14848128EE for ; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:24:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fwd30.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1DIBeE-00049x-04; Sun, 03 Apr 2005 22:24:42 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (bdP5yOZ18eUiBpXhyXD8iqdsmXM2ASPBaT-f2nKtSA2S6X7Eq6ZFEZ@[217.226.96.93]) by fwd30.sul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1DIBeA-0UrKIS0; Sun, 3 Apr 2005 22:24:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: <42AE6611@webmail.colostate.edu> Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-ID: bdP5yOZ18eUiBpXhyXD8iqdsmXM2ASPBaT-f2nKtSA2S6X7Eq6ZFEZ@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 3476a153-2585-4161-a8fe-f203947ca8f0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:19575 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:19575 On Apr 3, 2005, at 9:40 PM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote: > Hi guys, > > Ok, I certainly did _not_ intend to start a flame war, was just > dreaming out > loud:-)) Idris, no flame war intended! I know that we have very similar interests (btw: how's "critical editions in ConTeXt" doing?), that's why I stated what I feel about it. (For the manual: have you looked in your inbox lately?) During the last weeks, I have written a perl script to create an automatic encoding vector for ttf (Unicode) fonts with Greek letters. I have spent way too much time on it. It works reasonably well, but I always have to look at things and correct stuff manually. Font designers are too [insert favorite swearword here] to give decent names to their glyphs, and since we need those names for the encoding, it's hard to make things happen automatically. Fonts claim to follow the Unicode standard, but then have glyphs in the wrong place. Some designers even modify the standard Adobe names, so you can't even use the normal ec or texnansi-encoding. > > > I have even more difficult issues with Arabic;-) Yeah, I can believe that. >> > > Hmm, seems we've heard the same comment about Linux in the pre-KDE > days:-) Tell you what: I think right now the same is true for linux. As long as you're satisfied with the standards some distribution gives you, you might get past the CLI. But try to integrate a piece of unusual hardware, or modify settings, and presto, you need the terminal and a basic understanding of Unix. > Seriously, there is room in the TeX world for a creative gui approach, > and > ConTeXt would be a much better candidate than LaTeX for that to work. > Yes, > this is just a dream for now... Well, let's dream and not take this further. Bedtime over here in Europe... All best Thomas