* Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!
@ 2010-11-23 18:18 "Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد"
2010-11-23 18:43 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: "Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد" @ 2010-11-23 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 02:03:33 -0700, barney schwartz
<barndog1946@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> New build of WinEdt 6.0 (Build: 20101121) has been uploaded to
>
>>> www.winedt.com
>
>>> This build contains macros that work with the latest ConTeXt Mark
>>> IV (previous versions were designed for older version of ConTeXt).
>>> If you are upgrading from older version of WinEdt make sure that
>>> the executable for ConTeXt in WinEdt's Execution Modes is set
>>> context.exe (instead of old texexec.exe)...
I used winedt for years, and turning it into a full-fledged dedicated
ConTeXt editor would not be hard ... I had to leave it because there was no
utf-8 or bidi support.
limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...
otherwise the best dedicated tex editor I've ever used...
Best wishes
Idris
--
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International Journal of Shiʿi Studies
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523
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* Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!
2010-11-23 18:18 New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!! "Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد"
@ 2010-11-23 18:43 ` Mojca Miklavec
2010-11-25 10:01 ` Ulrike Fischer
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2010-11-23 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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2010/11/23 "\"Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد\"" wrote:
>
> I used winedt for years, and turning it into a full-fledged dedicated
> ConTeXt editor would not be hard ... I had to leave it because there was no
> utf-8 or bidi support.
>
> limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
> default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...
I don't know if bidi will ever be there either, but the sole fact that
it supports UTF-8 is already surprising (the editor lags behing for
ages in that respect) and enough for a vast majority of TeX users.
It's not that he made it default on his own machine - it is now
default with every installation of WinEdt (it might be that they made
that on his request).
Mojca
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* Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!
2010-11-23 18:43 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2010-11-25 10:01 ` Ulrike Fischer
2010-11-25 10:31 ` Khaled Hosny
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From: Ulrike Fischer @ 2010-11-25 10:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Am Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:43:13 +0100 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
>> limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
>> default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...
>
> I don't know if bidi will ever be there either, but the sole fact that
> it supports UTF-8 is already surprising (the editor lags behing for
> ages in that respect) and enough for a vast majority of TeX users.
The limited utf-8-support has been there for years. And it is really
very limited: WinEdt is not capable to handle utf-8 documents that
require more than one code page (eg. a mix of Russian and French).
I don't care very much as I'm not using other scripts. In the few
cases I need access to chars from other codepages I can use
^^^^-notation. Or use emacs.
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Ulrike Fischer
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* Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!
2010-11-25 10:01 ` Ulrike Fischer
@ 2010-11-25 10:31 ` Khaled Hosny
2010-11-25 10:37 ` Ulrike Fischer
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From: Khaled Hosny @ 2010-11-25 10:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 11:01:17AM +0100, Ulrike Fischer wrote:
> Am Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:43:13 +0100 schrieb Mojca Miklavec:
>
> >> limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
> >> default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...
> >
> > I don't know if bidi will ever be there either, but the sole fact that
> > it supports UTF-8 is already surprising (the editor lags behing for
> > ages in that respect) and enough for a vast majority of TeX users.
>
> The limited utf-8-support has been there for years. And it is really
> very limited: WinEdt is not capable to handle utf-8 documents that
> require more than one code page (eg. a mix of Russian and French).
I've seen all sorts of limited unicode support, but that one is really
retarded, I can't actually imagine how such thing would be coded!
Regards,
Khaled
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Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
Free font developer
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* Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!
2010-11-25 10:31 ` Khaled Hosny
@ 2010-11-25 10:37 ` Ulrike Fischer
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From: Ulrike Fischer @ 2010-11-25 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ntg-context
Am Thu, 25 Nov 2010 12:31:05 +0200 schrieb Khaled Hosny:
>>>> limited utf-8 is now available -- so interesting that Aleks made MkIV
>>>> default --, don't know when/if-ever bidi support will be there ...
>>>
>>> I don't know if bidi will ever be there either, but the sole fact that
>>> it supports UTF-8 is already surprising (the editor lags behing for
>>> ages in that respect) and enough for a vast majority of TeX users.
>>
>> The limited utf-8-support has been there for years. And it is really
>> very limited: WinEdt is not capable to handle utf-8 documents that
>> require more than one code page (eg. a mix of Russian and French).
>
> I've seen all sorts of limited unicode support, but that one is really
> retarded, I can't actually imagine how such thing would be coded!
It is a simple mapping to a 256 codepage: To quote from the
documentation:
However, WinEdt can transparently convert Unicode (UTF-8) documents
into ACP when they are loaded and back to UTF-8 when they are saved.
This makes it possible to work with UTF-8 documents as long as they
can be converted into ACP (Ansi Code Page).
--
Ulrike Fischer
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* New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!
@ 2010-11-21 9:03 barney schwartz
2010-11-22 10:19 ` Hans Hagen
2010-11-22 22:57 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: barney schwartz @ 2010-11-21 9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
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>> New build of WinEdt 6.0 (Build: 20101121) has been uploaded to
>> www.winedt.com
>> This build contains macros that work with the latest ConTeXt Mark
>> IV (previous versions were designed for older version of ConTeXt).
>> If you are upgrading from older version of WinEdt make sure that
>> the executable for ConTeXt in WinEdt's Execution Modes is set
>>context.exe (instead of old texexec.exe)...
>>If you (really!?) want to use old ConTeXt Mark II you will have
>>modify the menu item for ConTeXt to call:
>>ConTeXt_old.edt
>> instead of
>> ConTeXt.edt
>> News.txt gives the details (read it!)
>> In the meantime another build 20101111 had been available (but
>> never announced on the list). Since then WinEdt takes care of
>> environment variables MIKTEX_EDITOR and TEXEDIT that define the
>> editor response for "e" in MiKTeX and TeX Live.
>> You can install the latest build over the old version of WinEdt 6.0 and
>> then read What's new in the Help menu (if you want to take
>> advantage of certain changes such as new items in the Maintenance
>> Menu designed to load customized scripts etc...).
>> Best regards,
>> alex
Just thought I would post this here for other Winedt users.
barney
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* Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!
2010-11-21 9:03 barney schwartz
@ 2010-11-22 10:19 ` Hans Hagen
2010-11-25 9:42 ` barney schwartz
2010-11-22 22:57 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-11-22 10:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: barney schwartz
On 21-11-2010 10:03, barney schwartz wrote:
> Just thought I would post this here for other Winedt users.
ah, good. thanks,
Hans
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* Re: New Release Winedt WORKS with MKIV!!
2010-11-21 9:03 barney schwartz
2010-11-22 10:19 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2010-11-22 22:57 ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2010-11-22 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:03, barney schwartz wrote:
>>> New build of WinEdt 6.0 (Build: 20101121) has been uploaded to
>
>>> www.winedt.com
>
>>> This build contains macros that work with the latest ConTeXt Mark
>>> IV (previous versions were designed for older version of ConTeXt).
>>> If you are upgrading from older version of WinEdt make sure that
>>> the executable for ConTeXt in WinEdt's Execution Modes is set
>>>context.exe (instead of old texexec.exe)...
>
> Just thought I would post this here for other Winedt users.
Thanks a lot for this notice (and thanks to Ulrike for debugging).
This is indeed very nice to know (it used to be my favourite editor a
while ago). I always thought that supporting ConTeXt needs heavy
hacking of WinEdt.
Mojca
(I'm still confused about whether it really doesn't/won't support
UTF-8 until version 7 since it is then almost useless for any
non-English speaking user for XeTeX and ConTeXt MKIV that are now
available in drop-down menu by default.)
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