* [Q] how to use 8r-encoded fonts @ 2001-02-13 13:45 Han The Thanh 2001-02-13 17:05 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Han The Thanh @ 2001-02-13 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Dear all, could anyone please tell me how to use a 8r-encoded font with context? Thanks, Thanh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [Q] how to use 8r-encoded fonts 2001-02-13 13:45 [Q] how to use 8r-encoded fonts Han The Thanh @ 2001-02-13 17:05 ` Hans Hagen 2001-02-13 22:23 ` Taco Hoekwater 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2001-02-13 17:05 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ntg-context At 02:45 PM 2/13/01 +0100, you wrote: >Dear all, > >could anyone please tell me how to use a 8r-encoded font with context? Isn't that ec? I always use texnansi, but taco fo rsure knows -) Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [Q] how to use 8r-encoded fonts 2001-02-13 17:05 ` Hans Hagen @ 2001-02-13 22:23 ` Taco Hoekwater 2001-02-14 9:56 ` Han The Thanh 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Taco Hoekwater @ 2001-02-13 22:23 UTC (permalink / raw) Hans Hagen wrote: > > At 02:45 PM 2/13/01 +0100, you wrote: > >Dear all, > > > >could anyone please tell me how to use a 8r-encoded font with context? > > Isn't that ec? I always use texnansi, but taco fo rsure knows -) It's not precisely ec, but it's the base behind ec. Ec encoded fonts are virtual fonts, but it is not possible to reach an unencoded glyph from a virtual font (and a lot of characters in a typical postscript font are 'not used' in adobe encoding), so the PostScript font needs to be re-encoded first so that all glyphs are in usable slots. That's what 8r (r for raw) is: a re-encoded postscript font. It's a very nasty encoding to work with because the accents are all in weird places (for TeX), and there are usualy no ligatures nor kerning info in the metric files. Thanh, why do you need it and precisely what font is it? If you just need a 'simple' re-encoded font, it is probably better to re-encode to TeXNAnsi (8y) which is both a better reencoding and directly supported by context. Basic recipe for using weird encodings: - write (or find) a file that maps all \uccode and \lccode and \accent commands to the right places (that's what the enco-ec and enco-il2 etc. files do) Suppose you call this encoding 'raw' - Write a font definition file that maps Symbolic font names to the corres ponding metrics (like font-ber.tex), like this: \definefontsynonym [Serif] [ptmr8r] [encoding=raw] - Now at the end of this file, redefine the bodyfont commands to make sure that the mapping actually takes place: \definebodyfont [14.4pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt,8pt,7pt,6pt,5pt] [rm] [default] - That's it. Basic recipe for using a weird font that you only need ascii or a specific character from: \definefont[myfont][ptmr8r sa 1] Now you can just call \myfont, as in plain TeX (bonus: the 'sa' stands for 'scaled at'. Symbol fonts defined this way honour \switchtobodyfont commands. Greetings, Taco ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [Q] how to use 8r-encoded fonts 2001-02-13 22:23 ` Taco Hoekwater @ 2001-02-14 9:56 ` Han The Thanh 2001-02-14 12:45 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Han The Thanh @ 2001-02-14 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ntg-context Hi Taco, > That's what 8r (r for raw) is: a re-encoded postscript font. It's a > very nasty encoding to work with because the accents are all in weird > places (for TeX), and there are usualy no ligatures nor kerning info > in the metric files. I think 8r-encoded fonts do contain ligatures and kerning info -- at least that what I saw from the ones I have. > Thanh, why do you need it and precisely what font is it? If you just > need a 'simple' re-encoded font, it is probably better to re-encode to > TeXNAnsi (8y) which is both a better reencoding and directly supported by > context. yes it sounds great, probably I will try it. I wanted to use 8r so I can access all glyphs from a `typical' PS font. I don't like ec too much, as it's rather cubersome (requires virtual fonts). Thanks, Thanh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: [Q] how to use 8r-encoded fonts 2001-02-14 9:56 ` Han The Thanh @ 2001-02-14 12:45 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2001-02-14 12:45 UTC (permalink / raw) Cc: ntg-context At 10:56 AM 2/14/01 +0100, Han The Thanh wrote: >Hi Taco, > >> That's what 8r (r for raw) is: a re-encoded postscript font. It's a >> very nasty encoding to work with because the accents are all in weird >> places (for TeX), and there are usualy no ligatures nor kerning info >> in the metric files. > >I think 8r-encoded fonts do contain ligatures and kerning info -- at least >that what I saw from the ones I have. > >> Thanh, why do you need it and precisely what font is it? If you just >> need a 'simple' re-encoded font, it is probably better to re-encode to >> TeXNAnsi (8y) which is both a better reencoding and directly supported by >> context. > >yes it sounds great, probably I will try it. I wanted to use 8r so I can access >all glyphs from a `typical' PS font. I don't like ec too much, as it's >rather cubersome (requires virtual fonts). If i'm right, you must have a series of yandy fonts (lbr) and in their docs are some quite good readme's about fonts and encoding issues. Hans ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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