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[Michel Bovani]

Hi all,

I am new to this list, and to context also. So I apologize if my 
questions were already asked... (is there a FAQ or an archive list, 
btw?)

First as I am a mac-user, I made an enco-mac file (seems to work), 
and as I am also a french user I need to make double ponctuations ( 
";" "!" "?" ":" ) active in order to add a non breakable thin space 
before ";" "!" and "?" and a non breakable word space before ":" 
(that is the rule in french typography).

But of course I expect these characters dont remain active when 
coming back to an other language...

Any Idea ?
-- 
Michel Bovani

Re:

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:46 PM 3/20/01 +0100, Michel Bovani wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I am new to this list, and to context also. So I apologize if my 
>questions were already asked... (is there a FAQ or an archive list, 
>btw?)

www.pragma-ade.com -> a few links -> mail archive [nice archive]

>First as I am a mac-user, I made an enco-mac file (seems to work), 
>and as I am also a french user I need to make double ponctuations ( 
>";" "!" "?" ":" ) active in order to add a non breakable thin space 
>before ";" "!" and "?" and a non breakable word space before ":" 
>(that is the rule in french typography).

Hm. Can you explain this a bit more? Maybe there are better ways (|:| etc
or so); 

Hans

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ConTeXt on Mac?

[H. Ramm]

Michel Bovani schrieb:
>First as I am a mac-user, I made an enco-mac file (seems to work), 

\startenthusiasm
Hey, you managed to get ConTeXt work on MacOS?
\stopenthusiasm

How? With OzTeX, CMacTeX or TeXtures?
What about the Perl scripts?

I tried it once with the environment Alpha, OzTeX and MacPerl and had no
success.
I would be glad, if I hadn't to boot Linux PPC only to work with ConTeXt.

Would you please send me your enco-mac.tex ?

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Re: ConTeXt on Mac?

[Michel Bovani]

At 21:47 +0100 20/03/01, H. Ramm wrote:
>\startenthusiasm
>Hey, you managed to get ConTeXt work on MacOS?
>\stopenthusiasm

\startallegromanontroppo
I just install the context archive in a tds directory, built a 
cont-en format and test it with (very) simple demo files...
\stopallegromanontroppo

>How? With OzTeX, CMacTeX or TeXtures?

with CmacTeX which is a web2c distrib, have a pdfetex engine and 
support a \write18 command : I think it was the best challenger...
moreover : the future version 3.7 will run on macOSX (3.7beta already exists).

>What about the Perl scripts?

I had very bad experiences last year with mac perl and, as Hans says 
that use command line wad possible, I try it (I think that we can 
expect an unix port of perl that will run on mac OSX terminal 
anyway... also CMacTeX is Applescriptable, and may be it is an other 
way).

Here is what I do :

Get the context archive and install it in the tds tree.

set up pdfoutput in cont-sys.rme and copy it to cont-sys.tex

extending pdftex.cnf to huge values (as for context in texlive5 texmf.cnf)

setting memory allocated to pdfetex tool to 30Mo.

Generate the format :

execute pdfetex -ini -efmt=cont-en *cont-en.ini

move cont-en.efmt to cmactex/texformats

Now I can run context by calling pdfetex and selecting the cont-en 
format file in the format menu...

>Would you please send me your enco-mac.tex ?

ftp://gutenberg.eu.org/pub/gut/MAC/context/contrib/enco-mac.tex.sit.bin

Please note that file should go in a context/local directory.
-- 
Michel Bovani

Re: ConTeXt on Mac?

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:47 PM 3/20/01 +0100, H. Ramm wrote:
>Michel Bovani schrieb:
>>First as I am a mac-user, I made an enco-mac file (seems to work), 
>
>\startenthusiasm
>Hey, you managed to get ConTeXt work on MacOS?
>\stopenthusiasm
>
>How? With OzTeX, CMacTeX or TeXtures?
>What about the Perl scripts?
>
>I tried it once with the environment Alpha, OzTeX and MacPerl and had no
>success.
>I would be glad, if I hadn't to boot Linux PPC only to work with ConTeXt.
>
>Would you please send me your enco-mac.tex ?

please use the beta for this, and adapt enco-mac to suit the named glyphs
and regimes; probably it will be just an input filter

Hans
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Re: ConTeXt on Mac?

[Hans Hagen]

At 10:56 PM 3/20/01 +0100, Michel Bovani wrote:
>At 21:47 +0100 20/03/01, H. Ramm wrote:
>>\startenthusiasm
>>Hey, you managed to get ConTeXt work on MacOS?
>>\stopenthusiasm
>
>\startallegromanontroppo
>I just install the context archive in a tds directory, built a 
>cont-en format and test it with (very) simple demo files...
>\stopallegromanontroppo

If the both of you write a nice summary of this, it can go into the
installation manual; i can also add a mac specific section to texexec.rme
if needed. 

Hans
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Re: ConTeXt on Mac?

[H. Ramm]

Hans Hagen schrieb:
>please use the beta for this, and adapt enco-mac to suit the named glyphs
>and regimes; probably it will be just an input filter

You're right: We need only an input regime like the 'applemac' encoding
for LaTeX's inputenc.
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Re: ConTeXt on Mac?

[Michel Bovani]

At 14:07 +0100 24/03/01, Michel Bovani wrote:
>A command like "texexec --help interface" give me this result :
>
>TeXExec 2.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2001
>
># Can't stat Friedrich:smftex:binaries:/: No such file or directory
>
>I suppose that is a path separator probleme, but  I don't know how 
>to fix it...

Shame on me! I typed -- help instead of --help :-(((

It seems actually possible to use macperl finally...

-- 
Michel Bovani

Re: ConTeXt on Mac?

[Michel Bovani]

At 12:37 +0100 21/03/01, Uwe Koloska wrote:
>Am Mittwoch, 21. März 2001 10:22 hast du geschrieben:
>>
>>  According to the CPAN ports page, Perl 5.6 is a standard component of
>>  Mac OS X. teTeX has been ported to Mac OS X too.
>
>But what about MacOS Classic (8.x, 9.x)???  We have a Mac that is not able
>to run MacOS X ...

I try to install Mac Perl (under OS 9.1) and to run it with Alpha 
perl mode (there is a command line option).

A command like "texexec --help interface" give me this result :

TeXExec 2.5 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2001

# Can't stat Friedrich:smftex:binaries:/: No such file or directory

I suppose that is a path separator probleme, but  I don't know how to fix it...
-- 
Michel Bovani

Re: ConTeXt on Mac?

[siep]

On 21 Mar, Uwe Koloska wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 21. März 2001 10:22 hast du geschrieben:
>>
>> According to the CPAN ports page, Perl 5.6 is a standard component of
>> Mac OS X. teTeX has been ported to Mac OS X too. 
> 
> But what about MacOS Classic (8.x, 9.x)???  We have a Mac that is not able 
> to run MacOS X ...
> 
> Uwe
> 

Judging by previous posts, the Perl situation apparently isn't so good
on Mac OS 8&9 (I am new to the mac and mostly use it for Photoshop or
Illustrator; otherwise, it's Linux). Another option may be to run TeX
under Linux or Windows with Virtual PC.

Siep

Re: ConTeXt on Mac?

[Uwe Koloska]

Am Mittwoch, 21. März 2001 10:22 hast du geschrieben:
>
> According to the CPAN ports page, Perl 5.6 is a standard component of
> Mac OS X. teTeX has been ported to Mac OS X too. 

But what about MacOS Classic (8.x, 9.x)???  We have a Mac that is not able 
to run MacOS X ...

Uwe

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Re: ConTeXt on Mac?

[siep.kroonenberg]

On 20 Mar, Michel Bovani wrote:
> At 21:47 +0100 20/03/01, H. Ramm wrote:
>>\startenthusiasm
>>Hey, you managed to get ConTeXt work on MacOS?
>>\stopenthusiasm
> 
> \startallegromanontroppo
> I just install the context archive in a tds directory, built a 
> cont-en format and test it with (very) simple demo files...
> \stopallegromanontroppo
> 
>>How? With OzTeX, CMacTeX or TeXtures?
> 
> with CmacTeX which is a web2c distrib, have a pdfetex engine and 
> support a \write18 command : I think it was the best challenger...
> moreover : the future version 3.7 will run on macOSX (3.7beta already exists).
> 
>>What about the Perl scripts?
> 
> I had very bad experiences last year with mac perl and, as Hans says 
> that use command line wad possible, I try it (I think that we can 
> expect an unix port of perl that will run on mac OSX terminal 
> anyway... also CMacTeX is Applescriptable, and may be it is an other 
> way).

According to the CPAN ports page, Perl 5.6 is a standard component of
Mac OS X. teTeX has been ported to Mac OS X too. Go to
darkwing.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/texshop.html for a urls (this url is
the homepage of graphical frondend to teTeX but also provides a compiled
teTeX itself) or go to ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next/MacOSX

I don't yet have Mac OS X so I can say nothing on how well everything
works.

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Siep Kroonenberg
Kluwer Academic Publishers, Prepress Department
Achterom 119, 3311 KB Dordrecht, The Netherlands
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