From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/5211 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: siep@elvenkind.com Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: fonts / proposal Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 15:14:00 +0200 (CEST) Sender: owner-ntg-context@let.uu.nl Message-ID: <200108061409.QAA29928@plane.elvenkind.com> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20010806140354.027c1330@server-1> Reply-To: siep@elvenkind.com NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035395814 32119 80.91.224.250 (23 Oct 2002 17:56:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 17:56:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pragma@wxs.nl Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20010806140354.027c1330@server-1> Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:5211 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:5211 On 6 Aug, Hans Hagen wrote: > At 11:22 AM 8/6/2001 +0200, siep@elvenkind.com wrote: > >>For me, it is a frequent source of confusion when Context does things >>its own way. Filesearching deviating from kpsewhich filesearch was one >>example; mapfile loading different from what dvips and pdftex do on >>their own would be another. > > actually, file searching is not that different, since the only filetype > supported by kpsewhich in tex itself are "tex" and "tfm"; i only block > system wide searches for certain cases by forcing local searches, an dmost > can be configured; global searches screw up any project with similar file > names; context is meant for usage is highly structered projects' if you > refer to figure inclusion, well this is messy anyway between tex's and apps -) > > concerning map files: dvips and pdftex already live in a world on their > own, also, mapfiles can be highly conflicting [try to include a pdf graphic > while using the default pdfonts.map and there is a reasonable change that > you run into troubles due to naming conflicts]; also, many fonts in the map > files are either not on any system, or in different names, etc etc. > Actually, pdftex should be capable of using a format specific cfg file. > > I try to adapt as much as possible to anything standard, but esp with > regards to fonts, less is standardized that one wishes, and i want once and > for all to get rid of missing glyphs depending on what cd i mounted. > > Actually, it would already help a lot if mapfiles would be structured, > properly named, etc > > Hans I am certainly not claiming that things are perfect the way they are, but I have my own workarounds, and I get along ok with kpsewhich and mapfiles as they are. What about letting out-of-the-box pdftex and dvips read the same mapfiles that they would read outside Context, and letting Context use kpsewhich for all its file searching, and that any non-standard behaviour would have to be explicitly turned on in a configuration file? Siep