Re: newbi: config

Re: newbi: config

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi,

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Hans Hagen wrote:
> > > or even
> > >     $pm_path =~ s/texutil.*?$//i ;
> >Then better
> >       $pm_path =~ s/texutil[^/]*$//i;
> are you sure about that? what excatly does this ^/ stand for ?
I ment [^\/] of cause.
[a] matches only "a" and [^a] matches all characters except "a".
Thus [^\/] should match all letters which are not "/" preventing problems
with paths which contain 'texutil:

~> perl -e 'my $foo = "/foo/texutil/bar/texutil.pl"; $foo =~ s/texutil.*?$//i; print "$foo\n";'
/foo/
~> perl -e 'my $foo = "/foo/texutil/bar/texutil.pl"; $foo =~ s/texutil[^\/]*$//i; print "$foo\n";'
/foo/texutil/bar/

Tobias

Re: newbi: config

[Taco Hoekwater]

Oops, my mistake. But even better is:

s/(.*)texutil.*?$/$1/i

(which is what I *meant* all along :-))

The advantage is that this doesnt depend on the path separator.

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:06:31 +0200 (CEST)
"Tobias Burnus" <tobias.burnus@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> ~> perl -e 'my $foo = "/foo/texutil/bar/texutil.pl"; $foo =~ s/texutil.*?$//i; print "$foo\n";'
> /foo/
> ~> perl -e 'my $foo = "/foo/texutil/bar/texutil.pl"; $foo =~ s/texutil[^\/]*$//i; print "$foo\n";'
> /foo/texutil/bar/
> 
> 
> Tobias

-- 
groeten,

Taco

Re: newbi: config

[Eros Albertazzi]

Thanks for the time spent in answering, I appreciate and admire your
efforts.... 
hope I can pay you back with successfull presentation and A0 posters (my
goals) make with context (articles are nailed down to  latex and revtex
)... 
surely I wan't start bugging about german..

1-

> >figures        : figure As can not be found
> 
> what is the suffix of As? Looks like you use a graphicformat that is not
> known to pdftex or dvips
> 
My figures are (natively) .eps , I was under the impression that texexec
was taking care of the conversion, anyhow running texutil first and
separatly is not a big deal.... 
it was just a problem of knowing what to do.

2-
>esp not easy since you start with the tricky things: graphictext uses 
>tex/mp/gs etc ... -)

>\starttext
>\startMPcode
>  graphictext "MP" scaled 8 reversefill
>   withdrawcolor .7blue withfillcolor .7white
>   dashed evenly withpen pencircle scaled 1pt ;
>\stopMPcode
>\stoptext

Metafun manual starts this way.... 
I installed pstoedit and now if I texexec  the example above it creates
a .ps file (mpgraph.1) that has what should be, but it still dosn't get
into the (final) .pdf 

Bottom line (just a suggestion, but surely you thought already): I fell
that including  a whole set of tests and compiled files (even from
simple to complex one, fonts, figures...) in context .zip distribution
may help checking and testing, somehow even saving question time, and
also, even expert users or developers, can have a quality control to
always relay on....

3-
>>pdftex         : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
>no problem, just a warning

>Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map):
>invalid entry
>  for `rtxptmro': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1
>fonts

>these are warnings: looks like some of you rmap files define slanted 
>versions of embedded fonts, you may want force embedding (good idea anyway 
>even for times etc)

Maybe I have a wrong attitude, but I am accustum to think that a warning
is just an indication of an error (soon or later....otherwise would be
just redundant information to cut)  and here, about fonts, my ignorance
is deep,.. so my worry and luck of confidence. 
Unfourtunatly I have no much time to sistematicaly understand... like a
black box that is better not to open, to not get overloaded....

How can I force embedding??  

Regards and thanks.
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Via P.Gobetti 101
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Tel: (+39)-051-639 9179
Fax: (+39)-051-639 9216

Re: newbi: config

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi,

Taco wrote:
> or even
>     $pm_path =~ s/texutil.*?$//i ;
Then better
      $pm_path =~ s/texutil[^/]*$//i;

Tobias

Re: newbi: config

[Hans Hagen]

At 10:24 AM 6/6/2002 +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>     $pm_path =~ s/texutil.*?$//i ;

ok, done, (needed anyway since there are now also .exe's on tl7)

Hans
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Re: newbi: config

[Taco Hoekwater]

On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 09:55:11 +0200 (CEST)
"Tobias Burnus" <tobias.burnus@physik.fu-berlin.de> wrote:

> Hi Hans,
> 
> > how does the message look like?
>     $pm_path = $0 ;
> print "\nDEBUG 1: $pm_path\n";
>     $pm_path =~ s/\\/\//o ;
> print "\nDEBUG 2: $pm_path\n";

>     $pm_path =~ s/texutil\.pl.*//io ;

Hans, you should change this regexp above into:

    $pm_path =~ s/texutil(\.pl)?.*//i ;

or even

    $pm_path =~ s/texutil.*?$//i ;

-- 
groeten,

Taco

Re: newbi: config

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi Hans,

> how does the message look like?
    $pm_path = $0 ;
print "\nDEBUG 1: $pm_path\n";
    $pm_path =~ s/\\/\//o ;
print "\nDEBUG 2: $pm_path\n";
    $pm_path =~ s/texutil\.pl.*//io ;
print "\nDEBUG 3: $pm_path\n";
    if ($pm_path eq "") { $pm_path = "./" } }
print "\nDEBUG 4: $pm_path\n";
use lib $pm_path ;

produces:

DEBUG 1: /home/tob/bin/texutil

DEBUG 2: /home/tob/bin/texutil

DEBUG 3: /home/tob/bin/texutil
Parameter to use lib must be directory, not file at /home/tob/bin/texutil
line 1016

DEBUG 4: /home/tob/bin/texutil

Tobias

Re: newbi: config

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:02 PM 6/4/2002 +0200, Eros Albertazzi wrote:
>I have update ConTeXt and pdflatex (and regenerate .fmt etc..etc..)

context is not related to pdflatex, just pdfetex will do

>but  now I am trying the to texexec the file (As.eps is there)
>
>% output=pdf
>\starttext
>\placefigure
>   [top][fig:one]
>   {fig}
>   {\externalfigure[As]
>     [width=1.\textwidth]}
>\stoptext
>
>I have:
>  TeXExec 2.8 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002
>---cutteed---
>pdftex         : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
>pdftex         : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
>pdftex         : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
>systems        : begin file a1 at line 3
>(./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf)
>(./texutil.tuf)
>(./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf)
>(./texutil.tuf)
>figures        : figure As can not be found

what is the suffix of As? Looks like you use a graphicformat that is not 
known to pdftex or dvips

when you use pdftex, normally the tuf files are not needed

Hans
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Re: newbi: config

[Hans Hagen]

At 01:01 PM 6/5/2002 +0200, Eros Albertazzi wrote:

>Let me take again your time, sorry but being alone w/o teachers in my

well, you live in italy so you can be teached even in italian by GB (aka 
Oblomov, on this list)

>istitution and moving to ConText is not that easy. Running the example

esp not easy since you start with the tricky things: graphictext uses 
tex/mp/gs etc ... -)

>\starttext
>\startMPcode
>  graphictext "MP" scaled 8 reversefill
>   withdrawcolor .7blue withfillcolor .7white
>   dashed evenly withpen pencircle scaled 1pt ;
>\stopMPcode
>\stoptext
>
>I obtain  an almost empty page with just page number 1 at top and
>several warning (maybe unrelated to the result)
>
>pdftex         : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
>pdftex         : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
>pdftex         : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map

no problem, just a warning

>Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map):
>invalid entry
>  for `rtxphvbo': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1
>fonts
>Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map):
>invalid entry
>  for `rtxphvro': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1
>fonts
>Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map):
>invalid entry
>  for `rtxptmbo': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1
>fonts
>Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map):
>invalid entry
>  for `rtxptmro': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1
>fonts
>}]

these are warnings: looks like some of you rmap files define slanted 
versions of embedded fonts, you may want force embedding (good idea anyway 
even for times etc)

in order to get graphictext working, are you sure that makempy runs ok, 
i.e. that pstoedit is installed and in your path?

Hans
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Re: newbi: config

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:59 AM 6/5/2002 +0200, Tobias Burnus wrote:
>Hallo,
>
>On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Eros Albertazzi wrote:
> > I have update ConTeXt and pdflatex (and regenerate .fmt etc..etc..)
> > but  now I am trying the to texexec the file (As.eps is there)
>Using the PDF output format one cannot use the .eps figures. You have to
>convert the EPS file to PDF. For example using 'texutil --epstopdf *.eps'
>
> > figures        : figure As can not be found
>
> > Parameter to use lib must be directory, not file at /usr/bin/texutil
> > line 1013
>I see this as well but I doesn't seem to harm.

how does the message look like?

Hans
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Re: newbi: config

[Eros Albertazzi]

Tobias Burnus wrote:
> Using the PDF output format one cannot use the .eps figures. You have to
> convert the EPS file to PDF. For example using 'texutil --epstopdf *.eps'

Thanks.... I was aware of that.. I just tought (or I should say I had
imagined) that texexec was taking care of all steps...

Let me take again your time, sorry but being alone w/o teachers in my
istitution and moving to ConText is not that easy. Running the example

\starttext
\startMPcode
 graphictext "MP" scaled 8 reversefill
  withdrawcolor .7blue withfillcolor .7white
  dashed evenly withpen pencircle scaled 1pt ;  
\stopMPcode
\stoptext

I obtain  an almost empty page with just page number 1 at top and
several warning (maybe unrelated to the result)

pdftex         : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
pdftex         : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map

Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map):
invalid entry
 for `rtxphvbo': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1
fonts
Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map):
invalid entry
 for `rtxphvro': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1
fonts
Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map):
invalid entry
 for `rtxptmbo': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1
fonts
Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/share/texmf/dvips/config/pdftex.map):
invalid entry
 for `rtxptmro': SlantFont/ExtendFont can be used only with embedded T1
fonts
}]

Regards
-- 
Eros Albertazzi
CNR-IMM, Sez. Bologna 
Via P.Gobetti 101
I-40129 Bologna, Italy  
Tel: (+39)-051-639 9179
Fax: (+39)-051-639 9216

Re: newbi: config

[Tobias Burnus]

Hallo,

On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Eros Albertazzi wrote:
> I have update ConTeXt and pdflatex (and regenerate .fmt etc..etc..)
> but  now I am trying the to texexec the file (As.eps is there)
Using the PDF output format one cannot use the .eps figures. You have to
convert the EPS file to PDF. For example using 'texutil --epstopdf *.eps'

> figures        : figure As can not be found

> Parameter to use lib must be directory, not file at /usr/bin/texutil
> line 1013
I see this as well but I doesn't seem to harm.

Tobias

newbi: config

[Eros Albertazzi]

I have update ConTeXt and pdflatex (and regenerate .fmt etc..etc..)
but  now I am trying the to texexec the file (As.eps is there)

% output=pdf
\starttext
\placefigure
  [top][fig:one]
  {fig}
  {\externalfigure[As]
    [width=1.\textwidth]}  
\stoptext

I have:
 TeXExec 2.8 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002
---cutteed---
pdftex         : needs map file: original-context-symbol.map
pdftex         : needs map file: pl0-ams-cmr.map
pdftex         : needs map file: original-vogel-symbol.map
systems        : begin file a1 at line 3
(./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf)
(./texutil.tuf)
(./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf) (./texutil.tuf)
(./texutil.tuf)
figures        : figure As can not be found

--cutted--- 
  sorting and checking : running texutil
Parameter to use lib must be directory, not file at /usr/bin/texutil
line 1013

Any clue on what I am missing (understanding and config commands....)
Regards
-- 
Eros Albertazzi
CNR-IMM, Sez. Bologna 
Via P.Gobetti 101
I-40129 Bologna, Italy  
Tel: (+39)-051-639 9179
Fax: (+39)-051-639 9216