more itemization:-)

more itemization:-)

[Idris S Hamid]

Dear gang,

How can I set up the itemization so that indentation is cut off completely 
immediately following a deeper level of itemization? Consider the following 
example (from my actual work since the subject matter may be of interest to 
readers). The expression beginning with ` In other words, each expression' 
should be unindented since it is logically part of the par containing the 
level-3 itemization. And no, an explicit \noindent is a workaround, not a 
solution.

Is this a bug?

Best wishes
Idris

===================test.tes===============
\setupindenting[medium]
\starttext
\startitemize[m]

\item Matter. This process involves the expression of thoughts and ideas
to be communicated to the reader, viz., the composition of the actual words 
and sentences. This is entirely the responsibility of the author of the text;

\item Form. The form of the text in turn involves three elements:

  \startitemize [KA]

  \item Logical structure. This involves the organization of the textual
  material into various logical divisions, from 

    \startitemize[KR]

    \item the more global level of divisions such as parts, chapters, 
    appendices, preface, index, and bibiography; to

    \item the more mid-level divisions such as sections and subsections; to 

    \item the lower level paragraphs, quoted paragraphs, itemized  lists, 
    parenthetical text, notes, right down to which expressions to emphasize.

    \stopitemize
  In other words, each expression  in a given text has a 
  role to play in communicating the ideas of the author and it is generally 
  the responsibility of the author to determine the role of each such
  textual element;

  \item Typographical structure. Given the document matter, the types of
  logical division to be employed, and the identification of each textual 
  element with a particular logical division, issues such as the following 
  must be decided:

  \noindent Traditionally this has been the responsibility 
  of a specialist; 

  \item Typesetting. It is the job of the typesetting machine to implement the 
  chosen typographical structure.

  \stopitemize
\stopitemize
\stoptext

-- 
Dr. Idris S Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80526

Re: more itemization:-)

[Idris S Hamid]

One more thing,

I need to set some space after the level-3 itemization before the rest of the 
paragraph. I tried

\startitemize[KR][after={\blank[medium]}]

but this did not change things.

>     \startitemize[KR]
>
>     \item the more global level of divisions such as parts, chapters,
>     appendices, preface, index, and bibiography; to
>
>     \item the more mid-level divisions such as sections and subsections; to
>
>     \item the lower level paragraphs, quoted paragraphs, itemized  lists,
>     parenthetical text, notes, right down to which expressions to
> emphasize.
>
>     \stopitemize %%% need space here!!!
>   In other words, each expression  in a given text has a
>   role to play in communicating the ideas of the author and it is generally
>   the responsibility of the author to determine the role of each such
>   textual element;

-- 
Dr. Idris S Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80526

Re: more itemization:-)

[Patrick Gundlach]

Idris S Hamid <ishamid@attbi.com> writes:

Hi,

> One more thing,
> 
> I need to set some space after the level-3 itemization before the rest of the 
> paragraph. I tried
> 
> \startitemize[KR][after={\blank[medium]}]
> 
> but this did not change things.

right, because context does not check for this  :)

\unprotect
\def\stopitemgroup
  {\iftextitems
     \removeunwantedspaces\space\ignorespaces
   \else
     \par
   \fi
   \ifnum\itemcolumndepth=0 \dolistreference \fi % beware !
   \iffirstlist \else \endgroup \fi % toegevoegd, eerste \som opent groep
   \ifnum\itemcolumndepth=\itemlevel\relax
     \stopkolommen
     \doglobal\newcounter\itemcolumndepth
     \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!na
   \else
     \ifnum\itemlevel=1                  % !
       \doitembreak\allowbreak           % !
     \fi                                 % !
     \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!na    % !
     \doif\@@oospringvolgendein\v!nee\noindentation
   \fi
   \endgroup
   \doglobal\decrement(\itemlevel,\itemincrement)%
   \egroup}
\protect

should fix this, but Hans should look over it again, since
indentnext=yes does not do anything except when you say after=\par,
which you can't. Why is there a comparison beetween \itemcolumndepth
and \itemlevel? This code above is really obscure...

Patrick

-- 
I'll fade into the darkness

Truncated ouput with m-bib

[Michael Hallgren]

Hi,

I'm moving some notes and papers from TeX to ConText, and I see truncated
(mainly authors) in my biblio's (using m-bib). Any known bib-related
current problems?

Cheers

mh

--
Michael Hallgren, http://m.hallgren.free.fr/, MH2198-RIPE

Re: more itemization:-)

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:12 PM 6/23/2002 +0200, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>Idris S Hamid <ishamid@attbi.com> writes:
>
>Hi,
>
> > One more thing,
> >
> > I need to set some space after the level-3 itemization before the rest 
> of the
> > paragraph. I tried
> >
> > \startitemize[KR][after={\blank[medium]}]
> >
> > but this did not change things.
>
>
>right, because context does not check for this  :)
>
>\unprotect
>\def\stopitemgroup
>   {\iftextitems
>      \removeunwantedspaces\space\ignorespaces
>    \else
>      \par
>    \fi
>    \ifnum\itemcolumndepth=0 \dolistreference \fi % beware !
>    \iffirstlist \else \endgroup \fi % toegevoegd, eerste \som opent groep
>    \ifnum\itemcolumndepth=\itemlevel\relax
>      \stopkolommen
>      \doglobal\newcounter\itemcolumndepth
>      \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!na
>    \else
>      \ifnum\itemlevel=1                  % !
>        \doitembreak\allowbreak           % !
>      \fi                                 % !
>      \getitemparameter\itemlevel\c!na    % !
>      \doif\@@oospringvolgendein\v!nee\noindentation
>    \fi
>    \endgroup
>    \doglobal\decrement(\itemlevel,\itemincrement)%
>    \egroup}
>\protect
>
>should fix this, but Hans should look over it again, since
>indentnext=yes does not do anything except when you say after=\par,

hm, \endgraf maybe, have to look into that

>which you can't. Why is there a comparison beetween \itemcolumndepth
>and \itemlevel? This code above is really obscure...

well, it's part of the oldest context code ... kind of prehistoric

your patch spoils the packed option; in itemize the before/after keys are 
ignores at level>1

so, fixing this will need a bit more work, like patching the packed handler 
and also the 'before' handling,

so i'll put it on the to do list

for the moment, adding a \blank is the best solution

(or \defineblank[hack][medium]  \blank[hack] so that later you can say 
\defineblank[hack][none])

remind me to fix this

Hans

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