* hyphenation and umlauts
@ 2002-09-11 18:50 Jens-Uwe Morawski
2002-09-14 19:04 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Jens-Uwe Morawski @ 2002-09-11 18:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
Ahoi,
I have the problem to declare a hyphenation of the german word
"Kriegsgeschädigte".
In a posting from Hans i found something that lets me try
\hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\aumlaut-dig-te}
But this runs in an error: "Wrong hyphenation..."
What is the correct way?
Thanks,
Jens
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-11 18:50 hyphenation and umlauts Jens-Uwe Morawski
@ 2002-09-14 19:04 ` Hans Hagen
2002-09-14 21:07 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-09-14 19:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ConTeXt
At 08:50 PM 9/11/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
>Ahoi,
>
>I have the problem to declare a hyphenation of the german word
>"Kriegsgeschädigte".
>
>In a posting from Hans i found something that lets me try
>\hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\aumlaut-dig-te}
>
>But this runs in an error: "Wrong hyphenation..."
>
>What is the correct way?
[ i assume that you use an 8 bit encoding ]
the aumlaut is not an 8 bit char, bit a composed character, where the " is
lower than normal, instead use:
\adiaeresis
Hans
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-14 19:04 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2002-09-14 21:07 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
2002-09-16 9:37 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Jens-Uwe Morawski @ 2002-09-14 21:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:04:17 +0200
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> At 08:50 PM 9/11/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
>
> >Ahoi,
> >
> >I have the problem to declare a hyphenation of the german word
> >"Kriegsgeschädigte".
> >
> >In a posting from Hans i found something that lets me try
> >\hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\aumlaut-dig-te}
> >
> >But this runs in an error: "Wrong hyphenation..."
> >
> >What is the correct way?
>
> [ i assume that you use an 8 bit encoding ]
yes, i use il1
> the aumlaut is not an 8 bit char, bit a composed character, where the " is
> lower than normal, instead use:
>
> \adiaeresis
Thanks, but
\hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\adiaeresis-dig-te}
gives
! Improper \hyphenation will be flushed.
\dobuildtextaccent #1#2->{
\let \char \normalaccent #1\let \char \normalchar #2}
l.5 \hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\adiaeresis
-dig-te}
?
Any hints?
Jens
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-14 21:07 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
@ 2002-09-16 9:37 ` Hans Hagen
2002-09-16 13:17 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-09-16 9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ConTeXt
At 11:07 PM 9/14/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
>On Sat, 14 Sep 2002 21:04:17 +0200
>Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> > At 08:50 PM 9/11/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
> >
> > >Ahoi,
> > >
> > >I have the problem to declare a hyphenation of the german word
> > >"Kriegsgeschädigte".
> > >
> > >In a posting from Hans i found something that lets me try
> > >\hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\aumlaut-dig-te}
> > >
> > >But this runs in an error: "Wrong hyphenation..."
> > >
> > >What is the correct way?
> >
> > [ i assume that you use an 8 bit encoding ]
>
>yes, i use il1
>
> > the aumlaut is not an 8 bit char, bit a composed character, where the " is
> > lower than normal, instead use:
> >
> > \adiaeresis
>
>Thanks, but
>\hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\adiaeresis-dig-te}
>
>gives
>! Improper \hyphenation will be flushed.
>\dobuildtextaccent #1#2->{
> \let \char \normalaccent #1\let \char
> \normalchar #2}
>l.5 \hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\adiaeresis
> -dig-te}
>?
>
>Any hints?
hm, so it looks like you're in default encoding, not in 8 bit; how about
\setupbodyfont[ppl,10pt]
\hyphenation{...}
or maybe
\setupencoding[ec]
\hyphenation{...}
Hans
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-16 9:37 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2002-09-16 13:17 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
2002-09-16 14:22 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Jens-Uwe Morawski @ 2002-09-16 13:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:37:33 +0200
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> At 11:07 PM 9/14/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
> >Thanks, but
> >\hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\adiaeresis-dig-te}
> >
> >gives
> >! Improper \hyphenation will be flushed.
> >\dobuildtextaccent #1#2->{
> > \let \char \normalaccent #1\let \char
> > \normalchar #2}
> >l.5 \hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\adiaeresis
> > -dig-te}
> >?
> >
> >Any hints?
>
> hm, so it looks like you're in default encoding, not in 8 bit; how about
Can you tell me, what i should do for 7-bit-encoding?
> \setupbodyfont[ppl,10pt]
> \hyphenation{...}
This works, but i need CM-fonts and
> \setupencoding[ec]
> \hyphenation{...}
still gives the error.
BTW: Is there a difference between \setupencoding[ec] and
\setupencoding[default=ec]?
Thanks,
Jens
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-16 13:17 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
@ 2002-09-16 14:22 ` Hans Hagen
2002-09-16 15:43 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-09-16 14:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 03:17 PM 9/16/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:37:33 +0200
>Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> > At 11:07 PM 9/14/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
> > >Thanks, but
> > >\hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\adiaeresis-dig-te}
> > >
> > >gives
> > >! Improper \hyphenation will be flushed.
> > >\dobuildtextaccent #1#2->{
> > > \let \char \normalaccent #1\let \char
> > > \normalchar #2}
> > >l.5 \hyphenation{Kriegs-ge-sch\adiaeresis
> > > -dig-te}
> > >?
> > >
> > >Any hints?
> >
> > hm, so it looks like you're in default encoding, not in 8 bit; how about
>
>Can you tell me, what i should do for 7-bit-encoding?
>
> > \setupbodyfont[ppl,10pt]
> > \hyphenation{...}
>
>This works, but i need CM-fonts and
>
> > \setupencoding[ec]
> > \hyphenation{...}
>
>still gives the error.
this is because hyphenation is only possible for 'pure chars' not for
composed ones (i.e. composed by \accent or macros)
>BTW: Is there a difference between \setupencoding[ec] and
> \setupencoding[default=ec]?
mostly the time it's set: \setupencoding does an immediate set, the default
is just the fallback in case a font has no associated encoding (normally
font switches will set the encoding)
Hans
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-16 14:22 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2002-09-16 15:43 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
2002-09-16 16:42 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Jens-Uwe Morawski @ 2002-09-16 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:22:29 +0200
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> > > \setupbodyfont[ppl,10pt]
> > > \hyphenation{...}
> >
> >This works, but i need CM-fonts and
> >
> > > \setupencoding[ec]
> > > \hyphenation{...}
> >
> >still gives the error.
>
> this is because hyphenation is only possible for 'pure chars' not for
> composed ones (i.e. composed by \accent or macros)
Does this mean that for the standard CM-fonts there no way to define a
hyphenation that includes umlauts?
Jens
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-16 15:43 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
@ 2002-09-16 16:42 ` Hans Hagen
2002-09-16 20:29 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-09-16 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ConTeXt
At 05:43 PM 9/16/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:22:29 +0200
>Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > \setupbodyfont[ppl,10pt]
> > > > \hyphenation{...}
> > >
> > >This works, but i need CM-fonts and
> > >
> > > > \setupencoding[ec]
> > > > \hyphenation{...}
> > >
> > >still gives the error.
> >
> > this is because hyphenation is only possible for 'pure chars' not for
> > composed ones (i.e. composed by \accent or macros)
>
>Does this mean that for the standard CM-fonts there no way to define a
>hyphenation that includes umlauts?
right, but you may want to switch to aer fonts, (kind of ec with precooked
umlauts)
\setupbodyfont[aer]
(of texexec --make --alone --bodyfont=aer to get 'm as default)
Hans
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-16 16:42 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2002-09-16 20:29 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
2002-09-17 7:58 ` Hans Hagen
2002-09-17 10:08 ` Marko Schütz
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From: Jens-Uwe Morawski @ 2002-09-16 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:42:26 +0200
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> At 05:43 PM 9/16/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
> >Does this mean that for the standard CM-fonts there no way to define a
> >hyphenation that includes umlauts?
>
> right, but you may want to switch to aer fonts, (kind of ec with precooked
> umlauts)
>
> \setupbodyfont[aer]
Ahh, this works perfectly. Many thanks!
In the \hyphenation i have used \adiaeresis. Where can i look to find
more names/commands for special characters?
Jens
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-16 20:29 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
@ 2002-09-17 7:58 ` Hans Hagen
2002-09-17 10:08 ` Marko Schütz
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-09-17 7:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 10:29 PM 9/16/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:42:26 +0200
>Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> > At 05:43 PM 9/16/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
> > >Does this mean that for the standard CM-fonts there no way to define a
> > >hyphenation that includes umlauts?
> >
> > right, but you may want to switch to aer fonts, (kind of ec with
> precooked
> > umlauts)
> >
> > \setupbodyfont[aer]
>
>Ahh, this works perfectly. Many thanks!
>
>In the \hyphenation i have used \adiaeresis. Where can i look to find
>more names/commands for special characters?
\showaccents
\showcharacters
etc will give you some info on what is defined / available in the current
encoding and how they are constructed
Hans
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-16 20:29 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
2002-09-17 7:58 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2002-09-17 10:08 ` Marko Schütz
2002-09-17 12:33 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
2002-09-17 12:43 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Marko Schütz @ 2002-09-17 10:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
From: Jens-Uwe Morawski <morawski@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: hyphenation and umlauts
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:29:10 +0200
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:42:26 +0200
> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
> > At 05:43 PM 9/16/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
> > >Does this mean that for the standard CM-fonts there no way to define a
> > >hyphenation that includes umlauts?
> >
> > right, but you may want to switch to aer fonts, (kind of ec with precooked
> > umlauts)
> >
> > \setupbodyfont[aer]
>
> Ahh, this works perfectly. Many thanks!
>
> In the \hyphenation i have used \adiaeresis. Where can i look to find
> more names/commands for special characters?
What if there is no hyphenation directly after the umlaut?
\hyphenation{\Adiaeresis{}qui-va-lenz-klas-se}
will not work.
What would be the correct way to define this hyphenation?
Marko
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-17 10:08 ` Marko Schütz
@ 2002-09-17 12:33 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
2002-09-17 12:43 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Jens-Uwe Morawski @ 2002-09-17 12:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tue, 17 Sep 2002 12:08:41 +0200 (CEST)
Marko Schütz <MarkoSchuetz@web.de> wrote:
> From: Jens-Uwe Morawski <morawski@gmx.net>
> Subject: Re: hyphenation and umlauts
> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:29:10 +0200
>
> > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:42:26 +0200
> > Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > At 05:43 PM 9/16/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
> > > >Does this mean that for the standard CM-fonts there no way to define a
> > > >hyphenation that includes umlauts?
> > >
> > > right, but you may want to switch to aer fonts, (kind of ec with precooked
> > > umlauts)
> > >
> > > \setupbodyfont[aer]
> >
> > Ahh, this works perfectly. Many thanks!
> >
> > In the \hyphenation i have used \adiaeresis. Where can i look to find
> > more names/commands for special characters?
>
> What if there is no hyphenation directly after the umlaut?
>
> \hyphenation{\Adiaeresis{}qui-va-lenz-klas-se}
> will not work.
> What would be the correct way to define this hyphenation?
Try:
\setupbodyfont[aer]
\hyphenation{\Adiaeresis qui-va-lenz-klas-se}
Jens
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-17 10:08 ` Marko Schütz
2002-09-17 12:33 ` Jens-Uwe Morawski
@ 2002-09-17 12:43 ` Hans Hagen
2002-09-17 19:02 ` Marko Schütz
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2002-09-17 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
At 12:08 PM 9/17/2002 +0200, you wrote:
>From: Jens-Uwe Morawski <morawski@gmx.net>
>Subject: Re: hyphenation and umlauts
>Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:29:10 +0200
>
> > On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:42:26 +0200
> > Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > At 05:43 PM 9/16/2002 +0200, Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote:
> > > >Does this mean that for the standard CM-fonts there no way to define a
> > > >hyphenation that includes umlauts?
> > >
> > > right, but you may want to switch to aer fonts, (kind of ec with
> precooked
> > > umlauts)
> > >
> > > \setupbodyfont[aer]
> >
> > Ahh, this works perfectly. Many thanks!
> >
> > In the \hyphenation i have used \adiaeresis. Where can i look to find
> > more names/commands for special characters?
>
>What if there is no hyphenation directly after the umlaut?
>
>\hyphenation{\Adiaeresis{}qui-va-lenz-klas-se}
>
>will not work.
>What would be the correct way to define this hyphenation?
replace the {} by a space since a space ends the \command and disappears
Hans
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* Re: hyphenation and umlauts
2002-09-17 12:43 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2002-09-17 19:02 ` Marko Schütz
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From: Marko Schütz @ 2002-09-17 19:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: ntg-context
From: Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl>
Subject: Re: hyphenation and umlauts
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:43:25 +0200
[..]
> > > > \setupbodyfont[aer]
> > >
> > > Ahh, this works perfectly. Many thanks!
> > >
> > > In the \hyphenation i have used \adiaeresis. Where can i look to find
> > > more names/commands for special characters?
> >
> >What if there is no hyphenation directly after the umlaut?
> >
> >\hyphenation{\Adiaeresis{}qui-va-lenz-klas-se}
> >
> >will not work.
> >What would be the correct way to define this hyphenation?
>
> replace the {} by a space since a space ends the \command and disappears
Thank you very much!
Marko
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