From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/9583 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jens-Uwe Morawski Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re[2]: [NTG-context] Frames (collection of) Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 12:48:10 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ref.vet.uu.nl Message-ID: <20021019124810.2b5bd893.morawski@gmx.net> References: <553276421.20021017190612@iol.it> <20021018015200.4cc90419.morawski@gmx.net> <4920069528.20021018150410@iol.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035399889 4181 80.91.224.250 (23 Oct 2002 19:04:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 19:04:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de (hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.15]) by osiris.hrz.uni-giessen.de (8.11.6+Sun/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g9JB5ee18822 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:05:40 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl by hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de with ESMTP for Guenter.Partosch@hrz.uni-giessen.de; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:05:20 +0200 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39C2510AF5; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:05:16 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.de [213.165.64.20]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id D6BA510AD7 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2002 13:04:46 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: (qmail 13766 invoked by uid 0); 19 Oct 2002 11:04:45 -0000 Original-Received: from port1500.fra.ginko.net (HELO eXergie) (212.202.67.230) by mail.gmx.net (mp010-rz3) with SMTP; 19 Oct 2002 11:04:45 -0000 Original-To: ConTeXt In-Reply-To: <4920069528.20021018150410@iol.it> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.0 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i586-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ref.vet.uu.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:9583 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:9583 On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 15:04:10 +0200 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: > > Friday, October 18, 2002 Jens-Uwe Morawski wrote: > > JUM> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:06:12 +0200 > JUM> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I'm working on an extension of tooltips (see attached file) whose > >> primary goal is for use "instead of" footnotes in interactive > >> documents. > > >> Suggestions for improvements are more than welcome > > JUM> I really would like to see this feature as part of the core: > JUM> \setupfootnotes[...,location=tooltip,...] > > JUM> This way one can use the normal \footnote command for a print > JUM> and interactive version of a document. > > There are at least three things that need to be done to add this > to the core in a fully ConTeXtish way: > > (1) add frame classes if you mean something like \defineframed[] \setupframed[][...] \{..text..} then i think this on the wish list of many ConteXt users. Commands that currently support framed-parameters could then support a parameter framedclass= > (2) add tooltip classes in the other mail-thread we agree that for tooltips the whole word should be an active area. IMO, this is not the best solution. If we can use tooltips for footnotes or bib-entries in the future, those elements will show a mark/symbol in the text, but for normal tooltips the problem is that nothing shows the reader of the document that there is a tooltip available. I think it is not a common practice to read a document and scan constantly the words with the pointing device. Thus, there should be also for normal tooltips a symbol or something else that indicates the tooltip. Best, Jens _______________________________________________ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl http://ref.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context