From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/9873 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Idris S Hamid Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: A Semetic Aporia Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 21:17:45 -0800 Organization: Imamology Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <200211172117.45028.ishamid@attbi.com> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037593005 12163 80.91.224.249 (18 Nov 2002 04:16:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:16:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ahoenig@suffolk.lib.ny.us Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18DdL1-0003A2-00 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:16:43 +0100 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD15B10B0E; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:18:33 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0BCB10AEA for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:17:56 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from linux ([12.252.37.110]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20021118041743.ZDIU21905.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@linux>; Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:17:43 +0000 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl, Hans Hagen User-Agent: KMail/1.4.2 Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:9873 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:9873 Dear Hans, I have a serious problem:=20 In Classical Arabic numerals are pronounced from single digits to tens to= =20 hundreds, etc., e.g.=20 1234=3D=3D four, thirty, two hundred, and a thousand. This makes transcri= bing=20 Arabic numerals easy: they run the same as in roman languages. So in my o= tp's=20 (Omega-Gamma) there is a command to transcribe any left-to-right L-R stri= ng=20 numeral into an L-R string in Arabic (so I don't have to type the numeral= =20 backwards in the L-R transcription; i.e., typing 1234 in L-R comes out th= e=20 same in R-L). But there is a complicated scenario: For purposes of sectioning, we get (= as in=20 a TOC) for e.g. Section 3.12 in roman it should be (L-R): 3.12------------------------------------------- in Arabic it should be (R-L): -------------------------------------------12.3 Now my Gamma configuration is such that everything is flipped R-L except = for=20 numerals, so I _actually_ get -------------------------------------------3.12 in my Arabic sections and TOC. Is there any way to reverse the order of=20 subsections so that subsection 3.12 comes out as 12.3? I assume there is = some=20 code that commands ConTeXt to print the section number, followed by the=20 subsection number. Can that be hacked to reverse the sequence for Semetic= =20 documents (Arabic and Hebrew)? So we could have an option say, =20 [style=3Dsemetic]. I did something similar in EDMAC once for Arabic criti= cal=20 editions. I am finishing up a treatise in Arabic to be submitted later this week so= I'm=20 desparate. I guess I could replace all the numerals using the manual=20 mechanism but there must be a better way! Best wishes Idris --=20 Dr. Idris S Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523