From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/10006 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Simon Pepping Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re[3]: In-paragraph display Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 20:47:12 +0100 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <20021203194712.GA1003@scaprea> References: <532276393.20021203013702@iol.it> <13EC3A06-065D-11D7-B956-0030657A7050@fastmail.fm> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1038948874 25588 80.91.224.249 (3 Dec 2002 20:54:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 20:54:34 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18JK3r-0006eE-00 for ; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 21:54:31 +0100 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB6910AE9; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:56:51 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from hgatenl.hobby.nl (ns.hobby.nl [212.72.224.8]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087DC10ABF for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:54:27 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from hgatenl.hobby.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hgatenl.hobby.nl (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id gB3KsOIF060619 for ; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:54:24 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from spepping@scaprea.hobby.nl) Original-Received: (from uucp@localhost) by hgatenl.hobby.nl (8.12.5/8.12.2/Submit) with UUCP id gB3KsOmg060615 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 3 Dec 2002 21:54:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from simon by scaprea.salix.nl with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18JJ0i-0000Ow-00; Tue, 03 Dec 2002 20:47:12 +0100 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Mail-Followup-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <13EC3A06-065D-11D7-B956-0030657A7050@fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.28i Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:10006 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:10006 On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 08:18:06PM -0500, Bruce D'Arcus wrote: > > On Monday, December 2, 2002, at 07:37 PM, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote: > > For what it's worth, I agree with Giuseppe here. It's the same issue > I had with block quotes: that even if there's no blank line, ConTeXt > assumes new paragraph. I agree with Giuseppe and Bruce as well. A paragraph with a displayed item in the middle, looks different to the typesetter than to the reader: For the typesetter it consists of three "display areas". For the reader it consists of a single paragraph with a part standing out by its layout. The author registers his intention to consider this as a single paragraph by not issuing \par commands, not explicitly and no blank lines around the displayed item. AFAIK, in HTML such a paragraph is forbidden; a "block item" cannot contain other "block items". In LaTeX this situation is handled by the everypar mechanism. The end of the display environment inserts into everypar a "once only" noindent command. If the author issues a \par command after the displayed item, explicitly or by a blank line, the noindent is consumed by this empty paragraph. The following text will see the normal everypar, with a normal parindent. It is a fragile mechanism, and for a class author it is always a problem to get this right. (It also bluntly resets everypar, thus disabling any other usage of it.) I am not sure how a \par command before the displayed item is treated. In context \setupdescriptions has a 'indentnext=no' option. In DocbookInContext I have tried to use it, in variablelist and glosslist. I did not see a result. Regards, Simon -- Simon Pepping email: spepping@scaprea.hobby.nl