typo in math-tex

typo in math-tex

[Adam Lindsay]

Hi,

There's a small typo in math-tex.tex (line 220 in my version):
\definemathsymbol [flat]        [ord] [sy] ["5B]
   ...should be...
\definemathsymbol [flat]        [ord] [mi] ["5B]

Now to figure out how to get that symbol to show up within euler. Anyone
know how to determine the symbols in a given font?

adam

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sharps and flats and Euler (was Re: typo in math-tex)

[Adam Lindsay]

I believe Adam Lindsay said this around Wed, 8 Jan 2003:

>Now to figure out how to get that symbol to show up within euler. Anyone
>know how to determine the symbols in a given font?

The answer to that last one is \showfont[eurm10], of course. For some
reason I couldn't remember getting that to work, before.

In case anyone is interested, I will document my problem. Because I'm
using Euler as my math font, I can't get at many symbols, including the
musical ones. With my current font definitions, I didn't get much joy
with cmr acting as a fallback in math.

Not really married to the idea of using math mode for music anyway, I do
this instead:
\definesymbol [Flat] [\getglyph{pxmi}{\char91}] % txmi (times) or cmmi10
(cmr) 
\definesymbol [Natural] [\getglyph{pxmi}{\char92}] %can be substituted
for pxmi
\definesymbol [Sharp] [\getglyph{pxmi}{\char93}]
\def\Flat{\symbol[Flat]}
\def\Natural{\symbol[Natural]}
\def\Sharp{\symbol[Sharp]}

Are there any better ways of doing this?


Now, with Euler math, I'm still not getting the nice euler numerals when
in math mode... I suspect I'm not picking up the math characters in math-
eul, but I have no idea of how to load those definitions. Any clues on
that one?  

Cheers,
adam

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Re: sharps and flats and Euler (was Re: typo in math-tex)

[Hans Hagen]

At 01:21 AM 1/9/2003 +0000, Adam Lindsay wrote:
>I believe Adam Lindsay said this around Wed, 8 Jan 2003:
>
> >Now to figure out how to get that symbol to show up within euler. Anyone
> >know how to determine the symbols in a given font?
>
>The answer to that last one is \showfont[eurm10], of course. For some
>reason I couldn't remember getting that to work, before.
>
>In case anyone is interested, I will document my problem. Because I'm
>using Euler as my math font, I can't get at many symbols, including the
>musical ones. With my current font definitions, I didn't get much joy
>with cmr acting as a fallback in math.
>
>Not really married to the idea of using math mode for music anyway, I do
>this instead:
>\definesymbol [Flat] [\getglyph{pxmi}{\char91}] % txmi (times) or cmmi10
>(cmr)
>\definesymbol [Natural] [\getglyph{pxmi}{\char92}] %can be substituted
>for pxmi
>\definesymbol [Sharp] [\getglyph{pxmi}{\char93}]
>\def\Flat{\symbol[Flat]}
>\def\Natural{\symbol[Natural]}
>\def\Sharp{\symbol[Sharp]}
>
>Are there any better ways of doing this?

maybe create a symbol set (did you look in symb-*.tex ?) I think some 
standardization in naming is needed here

>Now, with Euler math, I'm still not getting the nice euler numerals when
>in math mode... I suspect I'm not picking up the math characters in math-
>eul, but I have no idea of how to load those definitions. Any clues on
>that one?

in order to get that working the basic math text font should be euler as 
well; also, you need to code all you numbers in the source as math, so 
"about 25 years ago" becomes "about $25$ years ago"; euler was made by 
hermann zapf and used in "concrete math" (nice book by knuth cum suis) 
combined with concrete romman (afaik no type 1 available)

Hans

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Re: typo in math-tex

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:38 PM 1/8/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>There's a small typo in math-tex.tex (line 220 in my version):
>\definemathsymbol [flat]        [ord] [sy] ["5B]
>    ...should be...
>\definemathsymbol [flat]        [ord] [mi] ["5B]
>
>Now to figure out how to get that symbol to show up within euler. Anyone
>know how to determine the symbols in a given font?

You can try:

   \showfont[fontname]

Hans

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Re: typo in math-tex

[Hans Hagen]

At 09:38 PM 1/8/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>There's a small typo in math-tex.tex (line 220 in my version):
>\definemathsymbol [flat]        [ord] [sy] ["5B]
>    ...should be...
>\definemathsymbol [flat]        [ord] [mi] ["5B]

ok, changed

Hans
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typo in math-tex

[Adam Lindsay]

Hi, 
There's a small typo in math-tex.tex (line 220 in my version):
\definemathsymbol [flat]        [ord] [sy] ["5B]
   ...should be...
\definemathsymbol [flat]        [ord] [mi] ["5B]

Now to figure out how to get that symbol to show up within euler. Anyone
know how to determine the symbols in a given font?

adam


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