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* Expansion problem in natural table
@ 2003-02-08 20:52 Simon Pepping
  2003-02-09 18:39 ` Simon Pepping
  2003-02-09 20:26 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Simon Pepping @ 2003-02-08 20:52 UTC (permalink / raw)


I have an expansion problem in natural tables. I need to have this:

\bTD\XMLDBcontinuepartrue\ignorespaces\XMLflush{revremark}\eTD

but \XMLflush{revremark} must be expanded. When I do that using
\expanded,

\expanded{\bTD\noexpand\XMLDBcontinuepartrue\ignorespaces\XMLflush{#1}}\eTD

I get errors when I have compound characters:

\XMLDBcontinuepartrue\ignorespaces 
  Kleine \dobuildtextaccent\char 127 A{}nderung

It should be 

\dobuildtextaccent{\char 127} A 

for it to be valid. Or it should be 

\buildtextaccent\textdiaeresis A

In other words, \XMLflush{#1} should be expanded, but not all the way
down. How do I get that?

This is my hack, but it is awful because it relies on an exact number
of expansions:

\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\def
\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\!!stringa
\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter{\csname XML:dat:#1\endcsname}
\@EA\bTD\@EA\XMLDBcontinuepartrue\@EA\ignorespaces\!!stringa\eTD}

Error log:

\XMLDBshowElementTD #1->\expanded {\bTD \noexpand \XMLDBcontinuepartrue \ignore
spaces \XMLflush {#1}}\eTD 
#1<-revremark

\expanded #1->\long \edef \@@expanded {\noexpand #1}\@@expanded 
#1<-\bTD \noexpand \XMLDBcontinuepartrue \ignorespaces \XMLflush {revremark}
{\long}
{\noexpand}
{\noexpand}

\XMLflush #1->\csname \@@XMLdata :#1\endcsname 
#1<-revremark
{\csname}

\@@XMLdata ->\@@XML dat

\@@XML ->XML:

\XML:dat:revremark ->Kleine Änderung

Ä->\Adiaeresis {}

\Adiaeresis ->\dohandlecharacter {Adiaeresis}

\dohandlecharacter #1->\csname \ifcsname \characterencoding #1\endcsname \chara
cterencoding \else \nocharacterencoding \fi #1\endcsname 
#1<-Adiaeresis
{\csname}
{\ifcsname}

\characterencoding ->@default@
{true}

\characterencoding ->@default@
{\else}

\@default@Adiaeresis ->\buildtextaccent \textdiaeresis A

\buildtextaccent ->\ifignoreaccent \expandafter \nobuildtextaccent \else \expan
dafter \dobuildtextaccent \fi 
{\iffalse}
{false}
{\expandafter}
{\fi}

\textdiaeresis ->\dohandlecharacter {textdiaeresis}

\dohandlecharacter #1->\csname \ifcsname \characterencoding #1\endcsname \chara
cterencoding \else \nocharacterencoding \fi #1\endcsname 
#1<-textdiaeresis
{\csname}
{\ifcsname}

\characterencoding ->@default@
{true}

\characterencoding ->@default@
{\else}

\@default@textdiaeresis ->\char 127 

\@@expanded ->\bTD \XMLDBcontinuepartrue \ignorespaces Kleine \dobuildtextaccen
t \char 127 A{}nderung

\bTD ->\dodoubleempty \parseTD 

... snip ...

\parseTD [#1][#2]#3\eTD ->\getparameters [\@@tbl ][\c!ny =\tblnr ,\c!nx =\tblnc
 ,nc=1,nr=1,#1]\doloop {\increment \currentcol \doifnottbltag \maximumrow \curr
entcol \exitloop }\let \row \maximumrow \let \col \currentcol \dorecurse {\tbln
y } {\let \col \currentcol \settblcol \row \col \tblnx \ifnum \tblnx >\maximumr
owspan \relax \let \maximumrowspan \tblnx \fi \dorecurse {\tblnx } {\settbltag 
\row \col \tblnone \increment \col }\increment \row }\decrement \col \ifnum \co
l >\maximumcol \relax \let \maximumcol \col \fi \settbltag \maximumrow \current
col \tblcell \settblcol \maximumrow \currentcol \tblnx \settblrow \maximumrow \
currentcol \tblny \edef \celltag {{\maximumrow }{\currentcol }}\@EA \settbltxt 
\@EA \maximumrow \@EA \currentcol \@EA {\@EA \handleTBLcell \celltag [#1]{#3}}
#1<-
#2<-
#3<-\XMLDBcontinuepartrue \ignorespaces Kleine \dobuildtextaccent \char 127 A{}
nderung

... snip ...

\dobuildtextaccent #1#2->{\let \char \normalaccent #1\let \char \normalchar #2}
#1<-\char 
#2<-1
{begin-group character {}
{\let}
{\accent}
! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again> 
                   \let 
\dobuildtextaccent ... \char \normalaccent #1\let 
                                                  \char \normalchar #2}
<argument> ...es Kleine \dobuildtextaccent \char 1
                                                  27 A{}nderung


-- 
Simon Pepping
email: spepping@scaprea.hobby.nl

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* Re: Expansion problem in natural table
  2003-02-08 20:52 Expansion problem in natural table Simon Pepping
@ 2003-02-09 18:39 ` Simon Pepping
  2003-02-09 20:43   ` Hans Hagen
  2003-02-09 20:26 ` Hans Hagen
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Simon Pepping @ 2003-02-09 18:39 UTC (permalink / raw)


Even this goes wrong:

\edef\mychar{Ä}\mychar

The real reason is that \dobuildtextaccent and \nobuildtextaccent are
protected macros.

Error log:

{\edef}

Ä->\Adiaeresis 

\Adiaeresis ->\dohandlecharacter {Adiaeresis}

\dohandlecharacter #1->\csname \ifcsname \characterencoding #1\endcsname \chara
cterencoding \else \nocharacterencoding \fi #1\endcsname 
#1<-Adiaeresis
{\csname}
{\ifcsname}

\characterencoding ->@default@
{true}

\characterencoding ->@default@
{\else}

\@default@Adiaeresis ->\buildtextaccent \textdiaeresis A

\buildtextaccent ->\ifignoreaccent \expandafter \nobuildtextaccent \else \expan
dafter \dobuildtextaccent \fi 
{\iffalse}
{false}
{\expandafter}
{\fi}

                       <========= \dobuildtextaccent ( protected )
					              is not expanded after \fi
\textdiaeresis ->\dohandlecharacter {textdiaeresis}

\dohandlecharacter #1->\csname \ifcsname \characterencoding #1\endcsname \chara
cterencoding \else \nocharacterencoding \fi #1\endcsname 
#1<-textdiaeresis
{\csname}
{\ifcsname}

\characterencoding ->@default@
{true}

\characterencoding ->@default@
{\else}

\@default@textdiaeresis ->\char 127 

\mychar ->\dobuildtextaccent \char 127 A

\dobuildtextaccent #1#2->{\let \char \normalaccent #1\let \char \normalchar #2}
#1<-\char 
#2<-1
{begin-group character {}
{\let}
{\accent}
! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again> 
                   \let 
\dobuildtextaccent ... \char \normalaccent #1\let 
                                                  \char \normalchar #2}
\mychar ->\dobuildtextaccent \char 1
                                    27 A
l.21 \edef\mychar{Ä}\mychar
                           
? x

Simon

On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:52:54PM +0100, Simon Pepping wrote:
> I have an expansion problem in natural tables. I need to have this:
> 
> \bTD\XMLDBcontinuepartrue\ignorespaces\XMLflush{revremark}\eTD
> 
> but \XMLflush{revremark} must be expanded. When I do that using
> \expanded,
> 
> \expanded{\bTD\noexpand\XMLDBcontinuepartrue\ignorespaces\XMLflush{#1}}\eTD
> 
> I get errors when I have compound characters:
> 
> \XMLDBcontinuepartrue\ignorespaces 
>   Kleine \dobuildtextaccent\char 127 A{}nderung
> 
> It should be 
> 
> \dobuildtextaccent{\char 127} A 
> 
> for it to be valid. Or it should be 
> 
> \buildtextaccent\textdiaeresis A

-- 
Simon Pepping
email: spepping@scaprea.hobby.nl

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* Re: Expansion problem in natural table
  2003-02-08 20:52 Expansion problem in natural table Simon Pepping
  2003-02-09 18:39 ` Simon Pepping
@ 2003-02-09 20:26 ` Hans Hagen
  2003-02-18 20:11   ` Simon Pepping
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-02-09 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw)


At 09:52 PM 2/8/2003 +0100, Simon Pepping wrote:

>This is my hack, but it is awful because it relies on an exact number
>of expansions:
>
>\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\def
>\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter\!!stringa
>\expandafter\expandafter\expandafter{\csname XML:dat:#1\endcsname}
>\@EA\bTD\@EA\XMLDBcontinuepartrue\@EA\ignorespaces\!!stringa\eTD}

ah, the umlauts ...

even if it would work out ok, it looks to ugly, so how about:

\def\somethingsimon{blabla}

\bTABLE
\bTR\safeexpanded{\bTD\Aumlaut}\eTD\eTR
\bTR\safeexpanded{\bTD\noexpand\somethingsimon\Aumlaut}\eTD\eTR
\eTABLE

with in enco-ini:

   \appendtoks
     \keepencodedtokens
   \to \everysafeexpanded

and in syst-gen:

   \newtoks\everysafeexpanded

   \long\def\safeexpanded#1%
     {\begingroup
      \the\everysafeexpanded\long\xdef\@@expanded{\noexpand#1}%
      \endgroup
      \@@expanded}

A more contexy alternative -)

Hans
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* Re: Re: Expansion problem in natural table
  2003-02-09 18:39 ` Simon Pepping
@ 2003-02-09 20:43   ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-02-09 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw)


At 07:39 PM 2/9/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>Even this goes wrong:
>
>\edef\mychar{Ä}\mychar

\edef'ing is always a bit tricky, especially for some low level tex

for a solution, see previous post (or in addition to that:)

\def\safeedef#1#2%
   {\begingroup
    \the\everysafeexpanded\long\xdef\@@expanded{\noexpand#2}%
    \endgroup
    \let#1\@@expanded}

\def\safexdef#1#2%
   {\begingroup
    \the\everysafeexpanded\long\xdef\@@expanded{\noexpand#2}%
    \endgroup
    \global\let#1\@@expanded}

Hans
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                                   Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE | pragma@wxs.nl
                       Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
  tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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                     documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf
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* Re: Expansion problem in natural table
  2003-02-09 20:26 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2003-02-18 20:11   ` Simon Pepping
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Simon Pepping @ 2003-02-18 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw)


On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 09:26:27PM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote:
> At 09:52 PM 2/8/2003 +0100, Simon Pepping wrote:
> 
> ah, the umlauts ...
> 
> even if it would work out ok, it looks to ugly, so how about:
> 
> \def\somethingsimon{blabla}
> 
> \bTABLE
> \bTR\safeexpanded{\bTD\Aumlaut}\eTD\eTR
> \bTR\safeexpanded{\bTD\noexpand\somethingsimon\Aumlaut}\eTD\eTR
> \eTABLE
> 
> with in enco-ini:
> 
>   \appendtoks
>     \keepencodedtokens
>   \to \everysafeexpanded
> 
> and in syst-gen:
> 
>   \newtoks\everysafeexpanded
> 
>   \long\def\safeexpanded#1%
>     {\begingroup
>      \the\everysafeexpanded\long\xdef\@@expanded{\noexpand#1}%
>      \endgroup
>      \@@expanded}
> 
> A more contexy alternative -)

This works fine, provided \keepencodedtokens exists, which is only in
more recent context versions.

Regards, Simon

-- 
Simon Pepping
email: spepping@scaprea.hobby.nl

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