From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/11401 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Culleton Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re: Fonts again in ConTeXt Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:07:07 -0500 Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <200303131007.07928.john@wexfordpress.com> References: <5.1.0.14.1.20030312212058.024b3a00@server-1> <5.1.0.14.1.20030313133543.03d5be58@server-1> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047568268 26417 80.91.224.249 (13 Mar 2003 15:11:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Thu Mar 13 16:11:06 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18tUKO-0006in-00 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:09:04 +0100 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8558910B7B; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:09:48 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from mta4.adelphia.net (mta4-0.mail.adelphia.net [64.8.50.184]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807A310B13 for ; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:07:29 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from publish ([68.170.70.137]) by mta4.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030313150717.ZQVN19568.mta4.adelphia.net@publish>; Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:07:17 -0500 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl, Hans Hagen X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20030313133543.03d5be58@server-1> Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:11401 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:11401 On Thursday 13 March 2003 07:37 am, Hans Hagen wrote: (snip) Is it possible to take a deep breath and go back to the starting point, t= he=20 TeX primitive \font? It allows one to name a specific font as listed in e= =2Eg. psfonts.map or some other designated mapping file. Control is absolute. Y= ou=20 specify the font and if it is listed and installed you get it, in the siz= e=20 you specify. As a practical matter I seldom need a font in more than tw= o=20 sizes, and if I do then I can just dupe the \font statement, change the n= ame=20 and change the size parameter. Unfortunately Context has a much more=20 elaborate, indirect and confusing (to me at least) mechanism embedded.=20 Now, starting from this \font base, how do we add features without losing= =20 simplicity and basic control? Stated another way, how can one create=20 \font statements and alias them into the Context font handling system wit= hout too much grief? Fonts are the most troublesome aspect of TeX in all versions, from plain=20 TeX on forward. The mission is not to add complexity, difficulty and=20 confusion but to reduce them. We need a simpler way to install fonts and = a simpler and more direct way to call for them.=20 IMHO of course. John Culleton Able Indexers and Typesetters =20