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* references and mis-ordering
@ 2003-03-22 21:19 Adam Lindsay
  2003-03-22 21:51 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Adam Lindsay @ 2003-03-22 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)


hi folks.

I'm still in the process of debugging this (so details and a minimal
example aren't ready yet), but I'm wondering if anyone knows of
circumstances that would cause table and figure numbers to be out-of-
order and swapped.

For example, the numbers from my \placelistoftables run in this order:
8.1  8.2  8.3  8.4  8.5  8.6  8.7  8.5  8.9  8.10 8.11 8.12 8.10
                                   ***                      ****
While \placelistoffigures gives
8.1  8.2  8.3  8.5  8.8  8.6  8.7  8.8  8.9  8.13
                    ***                      ****

This is disturbing and hard to debug. The person whose thesis this is
didn't make it easy, with very long and minimally different identifiers.
I've tried purging the directory, including making sure the .tuo file is
completely rebuilt. I've tried changing reference names, and it *has* had
an effect on the order, but it hasn't fixed it yet.

I'm trying to avoid panic, but the doctoral thesis where we're running
into this needs to be bound on thursday. :)

thanks for any hints,
adam

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* Re: references and mis-ordering
  2003-03-22 21:19 references and mis-ordering Adam Lindsay
@ 2003-03-22 21:51 ` Hans Hagen
  2003-03-22 23:20   ` Adam Lindsay
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-03-22 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw)


At 09:19 PM 3/22/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>hi folks.
>
>I'm still in the process of debugging this (so details and a minimal
>example aren't ready yet), but I'm wondering if anyone knows of
>circumstances that would cause table and figure numbers to be out-of-
>order and swapped.
>
>For example, the numbers from my \placelistoftables run in this order:
>8.1  8.2  8.3  8.4  8.5  8.6  8.7  8.5  8.9  8.10 8.11 8.12 8.10
>                                    ***                      ****

you mean that there are duplicates?

>While \placelistoffigures gives
>8.1  8.2  8.3  8.5  8.8  8.6  8.7  8.8  8.9  8.13
>                     ***                      ****
>This is disturbing and hard to debug. The person whose thesis this is

hm, sounds new to me, this random ordering

>I'm trying to avoid panic, but the doctoral thesis where we're running
>into this needs to be bound on thursday. :)

do you run the latest version?

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* Re: references and mis-ordering
  2003-03-22 21:51 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2003-03-22 23:20   ` Adam Lindsay
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Adam Lindsay @ 2003-03-22 23:20 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hans Hagen said this at Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:51:44 +0100:

>>For example, the numbers from my \placelistoftables run in this order:
>>8.1  8.2  8.3  8.4  8.5  8.6  8.7  8.5  8.9  8.10 8.11 8.12 8.10
>>                                    ***                      ****
>
>you mean that there are duplicates?

Duplicates, missings, and strange crossovers.

>>While \placelistoffigures gives
>>8.1  8.2  8.3  8.5  8.8  8.6  8.7  8.8  8.9  8.13
>>                     ***                      ****
>>This is disturbing and hard to debug. The person whose thesis this is
>
>hm, sounds new to me, this random ordering

It's not something I imagined you would allow to exist for very long.

>>I'm trying to avoid panic, but the doctoral thesis where we're running
>>into this needs to be bound on thursday. :)
>
>do you run the latest version?

Very nearly: Mar  4 10:44 context.tex

But apparently I was in a little panic. I was misled by the reference
naming my partner used. What really caused it was the poorly understood
use of \placefigure[always] (from a mysterious hint you sent to the
list). My partner really doesn't like TeX's tendency to put floats pages
away from where they're named, so she wanted the strongest force option
available.

We replaced them with [here,force], and everything was made right again.
Sorry. I guess I did panic a little.

But I clearly need to learn more about the different placement mechanisms
sometime.

Tomorrow, the exciting world of \makeups...

thanks,
adam

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 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK             Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608
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