\indenting[*hang*] ?!

\indenting[*hang*] ?!

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hi,

Is there a way to have something like \indenting[hang] ?

With the first line not indented, but the second and following lines?


First I thought this is what is ment by \indenting[next],
but \indenting[next] seems to be exactly the same as 
\indenting[first], is this right?


Always happy for replies,

Steffen

Re: \indenting[*hang*] ?!

[Hans Hagen]

At 14:28 19/09/2003 +0200, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Is there a way to have something like \indenting[hang] ?
>
>With the first line not indented, but the second and following lines?
>
>
>First I thought this is what is ment by \indenting[next],
>but \indenting[next] seems to be exactly the same as \indenting[first], is 
>this right?

kind of tricky, since settings to hangindent and alike are forgotten when 
the setup is followed by an empty line;

there is \starthanging ... \stophanging now

but ... if we can assume that users start tagging their paragraphs with 
\bpar .. \epar i can imagine that we provide something \indenting [hang], 
so the question is: are you willing to tag

Hans
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Re: \indenting[*hang*] ?!

[Jens-Uwe Morawski]

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:52:03 +0200
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> At 14:28 19/09/2003 +0200, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Is there a way to have something like \indenting[hang] ?
> >
> >With the first line not indented, but the second and following lines?
> >
> >
> >First I thought this is what is ment by \indenting[next],
> >but \indenting[next] seems to be exactly the same as \indenting[first], is 
> >this right?
> 
> kind of tricky, since settings to hangindent and alike are forgotten when 
> the setup is followed by an empty line;
> 
> there is \starthanging ... \stophanging now
> 
> but ... if we can assume that users start tagging their paragraphs with 
> \bpar .. \epar i can imagine that we provide something \indenting [hang], 
> so the question is: are you willing to tag

imo, the question is: what has hanging to do with indenting?
Aren't these things completely different matters?
If yes, please don't spoil \indenting with that.

\setuphanging already exists, an option 'atbpar=on' (or something more
pleasant) should suit the needs IMO better.

Jens

Re: \indenting[*hang*] ?!

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Jens-Uwe Morawski <morawski@gmx.net> wrote:

>  On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:52:03 +0200
>  Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
>  > At 14:28 19/09/2003 +0200, Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
>  > >Hi,
>  > >
>  > >Is there a way to have something like \indenting[hang] ?
>  > >
>  > >With the first line not indented, but the second and following lines?
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >First I thought this is what is ment by \indenting[next],
>  > >but \indenting[next] seems to be exactly the same as \indenting[first], is
>  > >this right?
>  >
>  > kind of tricky, since settings to hangindent and alike are forgotten when
>  > the setup is followed by an empty line;
>  >
>  > there is \starthanging ... \stophanging now


Ah!


>  > but ... if we can assume that users start tagging their paragraphs with
>  > \bpar .. \epar i can imagine that we provide something \indenting [hang],
>  > so the question is: are you willing to tag
>
>  imo, the question is: what has hanging to do with indenting?
>  Aren't these things completely different matters?
>  If yes, please don't spoil \indenting with that.
>
>  \setuphanging already exists...


Hi Hans, hi Jens!

There is always another surprise in ConTexT. I mean:
How should I know? My sources are Hans's manuals + the list-archiv.
Neither in the manuals nor in the archive \setuphanging or 
\starthanging is mentioned...

So I am sorry for asking for things that maybe already exist!


But now I have to ask: how do I use \setuphanging or \starthanging actually?
Is there some kind of documentation or at least a minimal example somewhere?

Thanks for the lessons.

Steffen