From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/14160 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taco Hoekwater Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: m-bib and crossref Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:48:01 +0100 Organization: Elvenkind Sender: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Message-ID: <20031204094801.6daa4682.taco@elvenkind.com> References: <6.0.0.22.2.20031127222152.03067c80@server-1> <32989.129.16.195.65.1069969132.squirrel@mail.medic.chalmers.se> <20031128103624.GA7890@physik.fu-berlin.de> <20031201114514.7079d9cd.taco@elvenkind.com> Reply-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1070528186 15664 80.91.224.253 (4 Dec 2003 08:56:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 08:56:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl Thu Dec 04 09:56:23 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from ref.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.13] helo=ref.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1ARpHb-00007v-00 for ; Thu, 04 Dec 2003 09:56:23 +0100 Original-Received: from ref.ntg.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A1C10B3A; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:56:18 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (elvenknd.xs4all.nl [213.84.171.68]) by ref.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EB1610B3B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:48:02 +0100 (MET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D69AA10D2B for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:46:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from glenfiddich.elvenkind.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (glenfiddich.elvenkind.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23601-05 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:46:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from glenlivet.elvenkind.com (glenlivet.elvenkind.com [10.10.0.6]) by glenfiddich.elvenkind.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1727BF306 for ; Thu, 4 Dec 2003 09:46:19 +0100 (CET) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Errors-To: ntg-context-admin@ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.13 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:14160 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:14160 On Mon, 1 Dec 2003 12:00:08 -0700 (MST), William wrote: > > Personally I like 'real' cross-referencing better than filling in fields in order to > > minimize the number of keystrokes in the BIB file. > > I suppose that's a valid sentiment, although it saves many, many > keystrokes when your bib file is full of proceedings and journal articles. > Plus it looks fairly silly to reference the proceedings when you reference > only one or two of the articles in it (the same goes for books, journals, > etc.). Oh well... until I'm willing to write my own package I suppose I > have to play along or go back to LaTeX. If there are more people that agree with you I might change my mind ... > However, the entry for the proceedings themselves have the wrong number, > they get reset and start over from 1 e.g. > > Do You know of any way around this, or am I just going to have to manually > edit the bbl file? You could always \cite the proceedings manually. If you put the reference in a \setbox command it wont show up in the running text, like so: \setbox0\hbox{\cite[XX]} Wrt to your other questions: could you send me your input file(s) or the exact settings you used? It will be (a lot) easier to re-enact your observations if I do not have to guess and invent stuff myself. -- groeten, Taco