spanish

spanish

[Zunbeltz Izaola]

HI

I have been reading lang-ita.tex to see how a language is
defined. There are some errors. I have compare the translation with those
done by Javier Bezos in
spanish for babel ( he has studied spanish typesetting to build the style)

line 149
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!tabellen=Tablas] instead of Tablas --> Cuadros
line 156
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!figuren=Ilustraci\'ons]
                                               ^^^ (liustraciones
instead of Ilustraciones --> Figuras

line 170
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzos=intermedios]
I don't know what is
the propuouse of "intermezzos." Can you explain
for what are used? (i can't find it in the manual)

line 184
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!afkortingen=Abreviaci\'ons]
                                                   ^^^Abreviaciones

line 198
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!eenheden=Unidads]
                                         ^^ Unidades

line 205
\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!tabel=Tablas ]
Here i think is the singular
for Tabla, but Javier recomended Cuadro
instead of Tablas --> Cuadro

line 212
\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!figuur=Ilustraci\'on ]

instead of Ilustraci\'on --> Figura
line 219
\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzo=intermedio ]
intermezzo????

line 308
\setuplabeltext [\s!es]   [\v!january=jenero] jenero --> enero

line 316
\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!september=septimbre] septimbre --> septiembre

line 319
\setuplabeltext [\s!es]  [\v!december=deciembre] deciembre --> diciembre

This is all (for the moment :-), i've to read what are the meaning of
the other things, for quotes and so on.)

thanks in advance

Zunbeltz

Re: spanish

[Hans Hagen]

At 11:20 05/12/2003, you wrote:
>HI
>
>I have been reading lang-ita.tex to see how a language is
>defined. There are some errors. I have compare the translation with those
>done by Javier Bezos in
>spanish for babel ( he has studied spanish typesetting to build the style)

So, you suggest:

\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!tabellen=Cuadros]
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!figuren=Figuras]
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzos=intermedios]
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!afkortingen=Abreviaci\'ones]
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!eenheden=Unidades]

\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!tabel=Cuadro ]
\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!figuur=Figura ]
\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzo=intermedio ]    % for instance some 
intermdiate (often framed) textual intermezzo
\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!january=enero]
\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!september=septiembre]
\setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!december=diciembre]

Are there other spanish users out there who disagree? If not, i'll patch ...

Hans  

Re: spanish

[Laura]

On Sat, 06 Dec 2003 15:23:24 +0100
Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:


> >I have been reading lang-ita.tex to see how a language is
> >defined. There are some errors. I have compare the translation with those
> >done by Javier Bezos in
> >spanish for babel ( he has studied spanish typesetting to build the style)
> 
> So, you suggest:
> 
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!tabellen=Cuadros] % in Spain

                  tablas in some country of Latinoam\'erica

> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!figuren=Figuras]
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzos=intermedios]
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!afkortingen=Abreviaci\'ones]

                                         Abreviaciones

> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!eenheden=Unidades]
> 
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!tabel=Cuadro ]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!figuur=Figura ]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzo=intermedio ]    % for instance some 
> intermdiate (often framed) textual intermezzo
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!january=enero]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!september=septiembre]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!december=diciembre]
> 
> Are there other spanish users out there who disagree? If not, i'll patch ...
> 




--
Laura

Re: spanish

[Zunbeltz Izaola]

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Hans Hagen wrote:

> At 11:20 05/12/2003, you wrote:
> >HI
> >
> >I have been reading lang-ita.tex to see how a language is
> >defined. There are some errors. I have compare the translation with those
> >done by Javier Bezos in
> >spanish for babel ( he has studied spanish typesetting to build the style)
>
> So, you suggest:
>
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!tabellen=Cuadros]
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!figuren=Figuras]
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzos=intermedios]
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!afkortingen=Abreviaci\'ones]

Abreviaci\'ones is not correct. Put Abreviaciones.

> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!eenheden=Unidades]
>
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!tabel=Cuadro ]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!figuur=Figura ]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzo=intermedio ]    % for instance some
> intermdiate (often framed) textual intermezzo
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!january=enero]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!september=septiembre]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!december=diciembre]
>
> Are there other spanish users out there who disagree? If not, i'll patch ...
>

I think, the only problem is with the traslation of tabel/tablen. The old
traslation in Babel and used in technical wrting is tabla/tablas (I suposs
for direct traslation of enghish). The new traslation
(cuadoro/cuadros) made by Javier Bezos is more general ( I think,
especially in ConTeXt) is not dificult to define a new float named tabla
if anybody want to use instead of cuadoro.

Zunbeltz

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Re: spanish

[Jeronimo Alaminos]

El sáb, 06-12-2003 a las 15:23, Hans Hagen escribió:

> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!tabellen=Cuadros]
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!figuren=Figuras]
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzos=intermedios]
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!afkortingen=Abreviaci\'ones]
> \setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!eenheden=Unidades]
> 
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!tabel=Cuadro ]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!figuur=Figura ]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!intermezzo=intermedio ]    % for instance some 
> intermdiate (often framed) textual intermezzo
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!january=enero]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!september=septiembre]
> \setuplabeltext [\s!es] [\v!december=diciembre]
> 
> Are there other spanish users out there who disagree? If not, i'll patch ...
> 
> Hans  
> 

I would suggest
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!afkortingen=Abreviaturas]
instead of
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!afkortingen=Abreviaci\'ones]

Anyway, if you choose the second option, it should be 
\setupheadtext [\s!es] [\v!afkortingen=Abreviaciones]

This is my first message to the list. Just say congratulations: context
is a great piece of work.

Jerónimo.

spanish

[Zunbeltz Izaola]

Hi to all!

I am new to ConTeXt and list and i want to stay for log!

I have been rading lang-ita.tex and I see some error. I have post in
comp.text.tex and Giuseppe  Bilotta has sugest to send a patch to this
list. I don't know how can i send the patch (a diff output is enough).

 What is an intermezzo for? I don't know if the traslation is ok.

I'm also interested in adding basque language. Basque is not a romance
language, but the typesetting is very similar to spanish. Some
differences:

1) Instead of Chpater 1 -- in basque ---> 1 Kapitulua (Chapter)
2) When hypenating a compound word in the hypen, in the next line a hypen
is also necesary

anai-arrebak is hypendated

anai-
-arrebak

2) What files have i to change to add support for basque?

Thanks in advance

Zunbeltz

Re: spanish

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi Zunbeltz,

On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 08:56:09AM +0100, Zunbeltz Izaola wrote:
> I have been rading lang-ita.tex and I see some error. I have post in
> comp.text.tex and Giuseppe  Bilotta has sugest to send a patch to this
> list. I don't know how can i send the patch (a diff output is enough).
For patches that are not too huge (they won't be probably ;) send them
simply to this list or directly to Hans Hagen.

> I'm also interested in adding basque language. Basque is not a romance
> language, but the typesetting is very similar to spanish. Some
> differences:
> 1) Instead of Chpater 1 -- in basque ---> 1 Kapitulua (Chapter)
Well, you need to create/copy+modify the 
  \installlanguage, \setupheadtext and \setuplabeltext
lines in lang-*.tex. The ISO 639-2 language code is 'eu'.
If we follow the current syntax by grouping by language family, you
should probably create lang-baq.tex (or lang-bas.tex, lang-eus.tex).

> 2) When hypenating a compound word in the hypen, in the next line a hypen
> is also necesary
> anai-arrebak is hypendated
I don't know whether this can be done automatically, but you can use
  anai|_|arrebak to create the desired effect (see supp-lan.tex).

Tobias

Re: spanish

[Zunbeltz Izaola]

>
> > 2) When hypenating a compound word in the hypen, in the next line a hypen
> > is also necesary
> > anai-arrebak is hypendated
> I don't know whether this can be done automatically, but you can use
>   anai|_|arrebak to create the desired effect (see supp-lan.tex).
>
I solve this problem  in basque for babel with the following definition of
"-

declare@shorthand{basque}{"-}{\nobreak\discretionary{-}{-}{-}\bbl@allowhyphens}

The trick is done by \discretionary (TeX internal). The three arguments
are pre, post, nohypen text. When there is a hypenation in this point
in the firs line is put pre, and post in the next line. If there is no
hypenation nohypen text is put.

Zunbeltz