Unable to customize publication list

Unable to customize publication list

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Hi,

another m-bib problem from it.comp.software.tex ...
it seems that none of the "list customizations" options (i.e.
neither the \setuppublicationlist nor \setuplist[pubs] allows
to change the numbercommand parameter (e.g. to put brackets
around the bibref number in the list); a quick glance at the
log shows that the numbercommand is getting overruled by
\initializepublist ... how to cope with this?

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta

Re: Unable to customize publication list

[Taco Hoekwater]

Hi,

This

  \def\mynumber#1{[#1]}
  \setuppublications[numbering=yes,numbercommand=\mynumber]

should work. It definately works in (my) english version.

Hope this helps.

Greetings, Taco

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:04:09 +0100, Giuseppe wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> another m-bib problem from it.comp.software.tex ...
> it seems that none of the "list customizations" options (i.e.
> neither the \setuppublicationlist nor \setuplist[pubs] allows
> to change the numbercommand parameter (e.g. to put brackets
> around the bibref number in the list); a quick glance at the
> log shows that the numbercommand is getting overruled by
> \initializepublist ... how to cope with this?
> 
> -- 
> Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta
> 
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groeten,

Taco

Re[2]: Unable to customize publication list

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Hi,

It definitely doesn't seem to work here ...

Just to clarify, the \cites[..] do appear with brackets, it's
the list that doesn't have them. Using

ConTeXt  ver: 2004.1.13  fmt: 2004.1.14  int: english  mes: english

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Hi,

> This

>   \def\mynumber#1{[#1]}
>   \setuppublications[numbering=yes,numbercommand=\mynumber]

> should work. It definately works in (my) english version.

> Hope this helps.

> Greetings, Taco

> On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 17:04:09 +0100, Giuseppe wrote:

>> Hi,
>> 
>> another m-bib problem from it.comp.software.tex ...
>> it seems that none of the "list customizations" options (i.e.
>> neither the \setuppublicationlist nor \setuplist[pubs] allows
>> to change the numbercommand parameter (e.g. to put brackets
>> around the bibref number in the list); a quick glance at the
>> log shows that the numbercommand is getting overruled by
>> \initializepublist ... how to cope with this?

Re: Unable to customize publication list

[Tobias Burnus]

Hi,

On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:23:23AM +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> It definitely doesn't seem to work here ...
> Just to clarify, the \cites[..] do appear with brackets, it's
> the list that doesn't have them. Using
Here it works (in the list), the only problem is is the spacing, if the
item has two digits, the number and the item touch ([22]R. F. ...).

> Tuesday, January 20, 2004 Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> >   \def\mynumber#1{[#1]}
> >   \setuppublications[numbering=yes,numbercommand=\mynumber]
> > should work. It definately works in (my) english version.
Well, I also only tested my English version.

Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> > That's why I choose the bibl-XXX.tex files instead. Making a copy and
> > editing that is quite easy, or so I thought. (the documentation should
> > do a better job of explaining this, though).
> Patching a copy of bibl--xxx was the alternative way I
> suggested the guy with the problem. But I still think that at
> least the most common strings should be language-parametrized
> :)

While not objecting that words like 'and', 'ed.' and 'editor' could be
put in m-bib, I think there are so many combinations that it is not
feasible to add them all. Recently, I checked the bibstyle of the APS
and while they had two basic styles (revtex4/apspr.bst and apsrmp.bst)
there are several differences between all journals. bibl-aps.tex for instance
only implements the version for PRL (thank you Taco, for adding it!).

In addition, one can not translate certain words that easily. English
publishing houses make a difference between a new edition, minor corrections
and a reprint while German 'Verlage' usually bump the 'Auf\/lage' (well not
always for a reprint). There are more such differences which are listed
e.g. in The Oxford Guide to Style, but which I don't remember.

Tobias

Re[2]: Unable to customize publication list

[Giuseppe Bilotta]

Tuesday, January 20, 2004 Tobias Burnus wrote:

> Hi,

> On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 11:23:23AM +0100, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>> It definitely doesn't seem to work here ...
>> Just to clarify, the \cites[..] do appear with brackets, it's
>> the list that doesn't have them. Using
> Here it works (in the list), the only problem is is the spacing, if the
> item has two digits, the number and the item touch ([22]R. F. ...).

Ok, I finally found the reason why it didn't work here: there
was a

\setuppublications[distance=20pt,sort=author]

after the \setuppublications[numbercommand=\bracketed], and it
nihiled the effect of the previous setuppublications. Changing
the order fixed that. Isn't this a bug, though? Why is
numbercommand being reset?

> Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
>> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> > That's why I choose the bibl-XXX.tex files instead. Making a copy and
>> > editing that is quite easy, or so I thought. (the documentation should
>> > do a better job of explaining this, though).
>> Patching a copy of bibl--xxx was the alternative way I
>> suggested the guy with the problem. But I still think that at
>> least the most common strings should be language-parametrized
>> :)

> While not objecting that words like 'and', 'ed.' and 'editor' could be
> put in m-bib, I think there are so many combinations that it is not
> feasible to add them all. Recently, I checked the bibstyle of the APS
> and while they had two basic styles (revtex4/apspr.bst and apsrmp.bst)
> there are several differences between all journals. bibl-aps.tex for instance
> only implements the version for PRL (thank you Taco, for adding it!).

> In addition, one can not translate certain words that easily. English
> publishing houses make a difference between a new edition, minor corrections
> and a reprint while German 'Verlage' usually bump the 'Auf\/lage' (well not
> always for a reprint). There are more such differences which are listed
> e.g. in The Oxford Guide to Style, but which I don't remember.

I had no idea it was this complex, ok :)

-- 
Giuseppe "Oblomov" Bilotta