From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/15781 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matt Gushee Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Problems with left and right Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 09:22:41 -0600 Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: <20040724152241.GA18318@swordfish> References: <20040723191957.GA11496@swordfish> <41020125.3040307@wxs.nl> <20040724071558.GE11496@swordfish> Reply-To: Matt Gushee , mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1090682579 19471 80.91.224.253 (24 Jul 2004 15:22:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 15:22:59 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Jul 24 17:22:48 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BoOMJ-0004vN-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:22:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654CF1278A; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:22:47 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19941-07-5; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:22:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F3C12784; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:22:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823E712784 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:22:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19941-07-4 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:22:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mz1.forethought.net (unknown [216.241.36.12]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1242A12772 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:22:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [216.241.35.41] (helo=swordfish) by mz1.forethought.net with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1BoOMD-0006oS-Pb for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 09:22:41 -0600 Original-Received: from matt by swordfish with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BoOMD-0004nS-00 for ; Sat, 24 Jul 2004 09:22:41 -0600 Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:15781 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:15781 On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 10:39:52AM +0200, Peter M=FCnster wrote: > On Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Matt Gushee wrote: >=20 > > COMMAND: \setupheadertexts [] [section] [title] [] > >=20 > > RESULT: +--------------------+--------------------+ > > | | <section> | > > | | | > >=20 > > If you say there's a logical explanation for this, then I believe you= . >=20 > Hello Matt, > isn't it logical, if you consider > \setupheadertexts [odd-left] [odd-right] [even-left] [even-right] ? Please explain why I should consider it that way. Most books in every language I know of[*] are laid out with the even page on the left and the odd page on the right. Furthermore, the ConTeXt manual says: Those who want more variations in headers and footers can use four instead of two arguments .... \setupfootertexts [even left] [even right] [odd left] [odd right] So the order of arguments contradicts both the documentation and what I think of as common sense. NOTES: * There are exceptions, of course. Other than English, languages I am familiar with are mainly Chinese and Japanese. Traditional books in those languages are laid out in the opposite direction to European books, but almost all contemporary books in China, and I think most in Japan, follow the Western practice. Besides, we're all gwailos here, aren't we? --=20 Matt Gushee When a nation follows the Way, Englewood, Colorado, USA Horses bear manure through mgushee@havenrock.com its fields; http://www.havenrock.com/ When a nation ignores the Way, Horses bear soldiers through its streets. =20 --Lao Tzu (Peter Merel, trans.)