From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/15901 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paulo Ney de Souza Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Best source of ConTeXt documentation? Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 12:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: <200408021930.i72JUtUC001051@blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091475173 23599 80.91.224.253 (2 Aug 2004 19:32:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 19:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 02 21:32:42 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BriY6-00034c-00 for ; Mon, 02 Aug 2004 21:32:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3950127CD; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:32:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20647-05; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:32:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A82127D0; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:30:59 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54B0127D0 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:30:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20647-04 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:30:57 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from Math.Berkeley.EDU (unknown [169.229.58.57]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77B3127CD for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 21:30:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU (IDENT:3217@blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.58]) by Math.Berkeley.EDU (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i72JUt5X091511 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 12:30:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desouza@math.berkeley.edu) Original-Received: (from desouza@localhost) by blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/Submit) id i72JUtUC001051 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 12:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:15901 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:15901 >From ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 2 09:08:22 2004 >From: Hans Hagen >To: mailing list for ConTeXt users >Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Best source of ConTeXt documentation? >Cc: > >- it would take a lot of effort to keep such a source code repository up >to date and in sync (else too many questions) with the pdf repositoty If we are talking about examples, ones does not need to have the latest manual and the latest source in sync. Just one copy of the manual (that will eventually go old) and one copy of the source. For example, the Calculator, mixing TeX and JavaScript http://www.tug.org/applications/pdftex/calculat.pdf has NOT changed in many years now, so there is no problem maitaining the PDF and the source in sync... >- we only publish documented sources That is an important point ... and the only one I can give credit to, but I still think the abundance of examples, even without documentation, is better than the short of examples. >- i want to stimulate users to writ etheir own styles not to mimick >existing ones (i.e. avoid the 'all tex files look the same' problem) .... >so ... there are no hidden tricks (unless it would bother/confuse >users); and .. things like cover designs i wanna keep for myself if only >to avoid cutting and pasting >Hans Hans: Imitation is indeed the truest form of flattery! Paulo Ney