From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/15906 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paulo Ney de Souza Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Best source of ConTeXt documentation? Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 22:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: <200408030505.i73559A0013352@blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091509528 14608 80.91.224.253 (3 Aug 2004 05:05:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 05:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Aug 03 07:05:16 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BrrUC-000726-00 for ; Tue, 03 Aug 2004 07:05:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33572127A0; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:05:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23169-02; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:05:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8AEE12795; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:05:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB61112795 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:05:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 23004-03 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:05:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.math.berkeley.edu (unknown [169.229.58.57]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8AD12771 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 07:05:10 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU (IDENT:3217@blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.58]) by mail.math.berkeley.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i73559B7035247; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 22:05:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desouza@math.berkeley.edu) Original-Received: (from desouza@localhost) by blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/Submit) id i73559A0013352; Mon, 2 Aug 2004 22:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl, skhilji@tampabay.rr.com X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:15906 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:15906 Everyone learns a language by example, if you try to teach one you will see, even Patrick, when he was a baby learned his first language by example (real language), it is only natural, it is only human. To argue the contrary is just lack of experience in teaching. Paulo Ney >From ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 2 20:05:20 2004 >From: skhilji@tampabay.rr.com >Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Best source of ConTeXt documentation? >To: ntg-context@ntg.nl > >Adding to this thread (I don't mean a reply to Paulo, but rather a reply to what Hans was saying earlier)...The problem with "normal users" cooking up new styles is the lack of artistic abilities in some people (like me). One can, obviously go thru the manual cover the cover, but if one does not have creative thinking, then creating professional looking styles would be hard. That is why, users like me really do not care if our documents look like everybody else's (just as long as they look professional). > >Its kind of like learning Photoshop and knowing what each toolbar button does....but not knowing how to mix all the available tools create a professional looking graphic. > >And of course, once we learn the tool, then making small changes here and there to make it look slightly different is no big deal. > >Salman > >_______________________________________________ >ntg-context mailing list >ntg-context@ntg.nl >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >