From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/15925 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Paulo Ney de Souza Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Re: Best source of ConTeXt documentation? Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 08:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: <200408031513.i73FDoVo020480@blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1091546245 1894 80.91.224.253 (3 Aug 2004 15:17:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 15:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Aug 03 17:17:18 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Bs12T-0004BX-00 for ; Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:17:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A956812788; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:17:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26702-07; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:17:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632F21277A; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:13:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B07E1277A for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:13:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 26664-06 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:13:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.math.berkeley.edu (unknown [169.229.58.57]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5D612772 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 17:13:51 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU (IDENT:3217@blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU [169.229.58.58]) by mail.math.berkeley.edu (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i73FDoLq072394 for ; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 08:13:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from desouza@math.berkeley.edu) Original-Received: (from desouza@localhost) by blue1.Math.Berkeley.EDU (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/Submit) id i73FDoVo020480 for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Tue, 3 Aug 2004 08:13:50 -0700 (PDT) Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:15925 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:15925 Patrick, Maybe we should move this discussion off the list to not bother others that may not be so interested in it. What I am trying to say (answering your question) is that learning by example is natural to human behaviour and extremely efficient. If you attend any of my classes here in Berkeley you will see examples from begining to the end, no matter what the subject is: math or programming. Even with learned programmers, examples do work well, I took, for example (no pun intended) an MSDN CD for C++ I have here by my side, 80% os the space in the disk is taken by examples, the rest is shared between the software, SDK, and manuals ... You promptly assumed that the guy wanted to copy the examples at hand. I don't think that this is right! He may indeed end up copying it, but you can't assume it. Paulo Ney >From ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Aug 2 23:40:12 2004 >From: "Patrick Gundlach" >To: ntg-context@ntg.nl >Subject: [NTG-context] Re: Best source of ConTeXt documentation? > >Hello Paulo, > >> Everyone learns a language by example, if you try to teach one you >> will see, even Patrick, when he was a baby learned his first language >> by example (real language), it is only natural, it is only human. To >> argue the contrary is just lack of experience in teaching. > >Right, but what do you want to say? Typography and design is not a >matter of learning a language. > >Patrick >-- >ConTeXt wiki: http://contextgarden.net >texshow-web: http://texshow.contextgarden.net >List archive: http://archive.contextgarden.net >_______________________________________________ >ntg-context mailing list >ntg-context@ntg.nl >http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >