Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Steffen Wolfrum]

Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> Steffen Wolfrum wrote:
> 
> >ever so often I read mails by Giuseppe or Idris on Aleph.
> >Now I also saw that there is a context-manual on aleph.
> >Does this mean I can use the examples mentions there under ConTeXt?
> >
> >Running an alephtest.tex file ...
> >\start \textdir TLT\relax \setups[ward]
> >\start \textdir BLB\relax \red \setups[ward]
> >\stop \setups[ward]
> >\stop
> >... tells me that "\textdir" is an "Undefined control sequence"
> >
> >
> >What is missing?
> >  
> >
> probably aleph -)
> 
> texexec --make --alone --tex=aleph
> 
> texexec yourfile --tex=aleph --output=dpx
> 
> (or first line of file: % tex=aleph output=dvipdfmx)
> 
> 
> Hans

So I execute 
sudo texexec --make --alone --tex=aleph 
and try

% tex=aleph output=dvipdfmx
\start \textdir TLT\relax \setups[ward]
\start \textdir BLB\relax \red \setups[ward]
\stop \setups[ward]
\stop

But that gives me only:


 TeXExec 4.0 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003

            executable : aleph
                format : cont-en
             inputfile : aleph
                output : dvipdfmx
             interface : en
          current mode : none
               TeX run : 1

sh: aleph: command not found

           return code : 32512
              run time : 0 seconds

        total run time : 1 seconds



What else is missing?

Steffen

defining a frame with embedded typing

[Floris van Manen]

how would i define a frame with the typing environment embedded.

the way i thought to solve it does *not* work (of course)


\def\startTTinput%
{\startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth,background=screen,backgroundscreen=.8]
\starttyping
}

\def\stopTTinput%
{\stoptyping\stopframedtext}


or do i have to look for a solution in a different direction?

thanks!
% f

Re: defining a frame with embedded typing

[Taco Hoekwater]

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:18:31 +0200
Floris van Manen <vm@klankschap.nl> wrote:

> how would i define a frame with the typing environment embedded.
> the way i thought to solve it does *not* work (of course)
> ..
> or do i have to look for a solution in a different direction?

Yes, use \definetyping instead. Here is an example:


 \definetyping
   [TTinput]
   [before={\startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth,background=screen,backgroundscreen=.8]},
    after={\stopframedtext}]

 \starttext
 \startTTinput
 test
 \stopTTinput
 \stoptext


Greetings, Taco

Re[2]: defining a frame with embedded typing

[Floris van Manen]

that was the missing link. thanks!
% f

Re: defining a frame with embedded typing

[Brooks Moses]

On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 06:18:31PM +0200, Floris van Manen wrote:
> how would i define a frame with the typing environment embedded.
> 
> the way i thought to solve it does *not* work (of course)
> 
> \def\startTTinput%
> {\startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth,background=screen,backgroundscreen=.8]
> \starttyping
> }
> 
> \def\stopTTinput%
> {\stoptyping\stopframedtext}

Taco already showed the solution to this (use before= and after=
commands in a \definetyping or \setuptyping command), but it might be
useful to also explain why the above doesn't work.

It doesn't work, because \starttyping, like most verbatim environments,
scans through the following text until it gets to the appropriate end
text.  It doesn't expand tokens while doing this; in particular,
\stopTTinput never gets expanded, and so the sequence "\stoptyping"
never shows up to end the input.

Incidentally, there's also a bit more answer to how to do framed typing
environments in some answers to one of my questions a couple of weeks
ago; you might find it useful to look in the archives for that.

- Brooks

Re: defining a frame with embedded typing

[Hans Hagen]

Floris van Manen wrote:

>how would i define a frame with the typing environment embedded.
>
>the way i thought to solve it does *not* work (of course)
>
>
>\def\startTTinput%
>{\startframedtext[width=\makeupwidth,background=screen,backgroundscreen=.8]
>\starttyping
>}
>
>\def\stopTTinput%
>{\stoptyping\stopframedtext}
>
>
>or do i have to look for a solution in a different direction?
>  
>
i posted a solution a few days ago, must be in the archives 

Hans 

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Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 18:08:25 +0200, Steffen Wolfrum 
<context@st.estfiles.de> wrote:

> Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> >What is missing?
>> >
>> >
>> probably aleph -)
>>

> sh: aleph: command not found
>
>            return code : 32512
>               run time : 0 seconds
>
>         total run time : 1 seconds
>
>
>
> What else is missing?

You must make sure that aleph, a flavor of TeX like pdfeTeX, is actually 
available for the Mac, then create the plain and context formats for aleph.

eomega --ini *plain \dump
eomega --ini *cont-en
texexec --make en -tex=eomega

are the relevant commands. eomega _is_ aleph.

If you want to do serious work with aleph u'll have to modify the 
texmf.cnf file as well: comment this line

extra_mem_bot.context   =      4000000

otherwise you will meet some nasty surprises!

Best
Idris

-- 
Professor Idris Samawi Hamid
Department of Philosophy
Colorado State University
Fort Collins, CO 80523

Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Bob Kerstetter]

On Aug 17, 2004, at 11:24 AM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

>> aleph

aleph is the omega snip-off?

for fun, lookup aleph on google.  lots of alephs running around.

Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Bob Kerstetter]

On Aug 17, 2004, at 7:15 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote:

> On Aug 17, 2004, at 11:24 AM, Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:
>
>>> aleph
>
> aleph is the omega snip-off?

aah. spin-off, not snip-off.  but anyway, is that what aleph is?

Re: ConTeXt and Aleph

[Steve Peter]

On Aug 17, 2004, at 11:59 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote:

>>>> aleph
>>
>> aleph is the omega snip-off?
>
> aah. spin-off, not snip-off.  but anyway, is that what aleph is?

It's even an FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=aleph, 
which says

"The Aleph project aims to build a "usable" version of Omega, 
incorporating e-TeX extensions from the NTS project.

Two sets of concerns have provided impetus to the project: first, that 
many users need the e-TeX extensions, and they're not on the Omega 
development path; and second, that the Omega project is currently 
immersed in radical restructuring of Omega, and is not able to be 
particularly responsive to user requirements in the short term. In the 
longer term, the Aleph project hope that their work will be rendered 
irrelevant by the development of Omega proper.

The current pre-release snapshot of Aleph resides on CTAN with the 
rather modest name of e-Omega. Follow development by subscribing to the 
project mailing list via http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/aleph"

Steve