From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/16207 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Adam Lindsay" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Ancient Greek Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 09:07:28 -0600 Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: <20040822160728.24043@news.comp.lancs.ac.uk> References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1093187269 4896 80.91.224.253 (22 Aug 2004 15:07:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 15:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Aug 22 17:07:37 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1BytwX-0003di-00 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:07:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B961278B; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:07:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27629-09; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:07:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9667012772; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:07:33 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5665B12772 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:07:31 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 27877-01 for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:07:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (unknown [148.88.3.45]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9414D1276B for ; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:07:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [10.0.0.178] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i7MF7SWp017489; Sun, 22 Aug 2004 16:07:29 +0100 (BST) Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" , "Steffen Wolfrum" In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.0.1 build 4305 English X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:16207 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:16207 Steffen Wolfrum said this at Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:10:28 +0200: >As far as I understood I order to typeset text in xetex you have to use >basically plain TeX-commands. XeTeX is another TeX engine. So it responds to (plain) TeX commands. LaTeX and ConTeXt are macro packages that are written in TeX. So your LaTeX or ConTeXt commands are eventually just translated into TeX commands as well. MacOSX LaTeX people already have xelatex going. It's not terribly hard to get "texexec --tex=xetex" to work, either. (Hint: do "xeinitex cont-en" and use the resulting cont-en.xfmt file.) Colors, graphics, and transformations need \specials, and there are some font quoting tricks to do, as well. >So, when you say you're working on XeTeX drivers for ConTeXt does that >mean that I can write normal context code but typeset with XeTeX instead >of pdfeTeX? Exactly. >That would be great. Because my aim is to include polytonic greek quotes >in my context document, and I setup an ideal context environment for my >publications already and don't want to start with plain TeX again. :) >So if my understanding is right, when do you think XeTeX will be >available for us ConTeXt users? Ah, that would be why I asked about *your* requirements and timeframe. This is an avocation for me--I have a PhD thesis to write soon, so I don't want to commit to a timeframe for a side (albeit interesting) project. I can help you get started, and I will concentrate on the features you want most, but to do that, I need your requirements. I think Hans will agree that real users drive things forward, and that's what I see xecontext needing. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-