From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/17356 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Adam Lindsay" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Phonetic Symbols Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:37:27 +0000 Message-ID: <20041202153727.15765@news.comp.lancs.ac.uk> References: <20041202141654.GA11149@puritan.pcp.ath.cx> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1102002889 5856 80.91.229.6 (2 Dec 2004 15:54:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Dec 02 16:54:42 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CZt1W-0003XH-00 for ; Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:37:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E9D127D2; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:37:37 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21002-06; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:37:34 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83510127CB; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:37:34 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A220A127CB for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:37:32 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 21136-04 for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:37:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (unknown [148.88.3.45]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4241127CA for ; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 16:37:31 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [194.80.36.199] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.comp.lancs.ac.uk (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id iB2FbUqG028939; Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:37:31 GMT Original-To: "mailing list for ConTeXt users" , "Nikolai Weibull" In-Reply-To: <20041202141654.GA11149@puritan.pcp.ath.cx> X-Mailer: CTM PowerMail version 5.1 build 4340 English X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:17356 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:17356 Nikolai Weibull said this at Thu, 2 Dec 2004 15:16:54 +0100: >Em, I don't want to push this too hard, but I'd be interested in a >Tipa work-alike (or something similar) for ConTeXt as well. I'd >especially like the mapping part, rather than named glyphs, as it would >make more sense in the "source" of the document, for me at least. Well, the mapping with the tipa fonts is pretty easy: for the 64 or so most-used characters (alphanumeric++), Fukui-san put those characters where they're accessible with normal keyboarding. That is, get the font switch right, and you can type with the shorthand codes you know and like. (Ekspl@"neIS@n) No, the tricky bit is getting into the diacritics, modifiers, and all those things. (eh, not all that tricky) And then there's the tedious bit of handling all those characters in unicode, then, ideally, creating an input regime for IPA to map to those named glyphs. So it's a bunch of tedious work that's sometimes hard to get "just right" to do a proper job of it. But I'd say there's a 75%, workable solution in place. adam -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. atl@comp.lancs.ac.uk Lancaster University, InfoLab21 +44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-