Re: Re: using fonts -- installation

Re: Re: using fonts -- installation

[Adam Lindsay]

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Rob Ermers said this at Tue, 7 Dec 2004 00:19:13 +0100:

>Thanks for your quick reaction. Before ending this eventful day, I ran 
>texexec as you suggested.

(I'm in a meeting the next couple days, so probably won't be as
responsive after this email.)

>The font in question is Hudson (vendor=softmaker = Berry 5), for which I 
>  invented the name 5hu (+r for roman). I have the two files 5hur.pdf 
>and 5hur.afm.

Ugh. IMHO, it's a waste of time bothering with berry style renaming.
Texfont's beauty is that it takes fonts as they are (whole directories at
a time). It shouldn't create problems if you want to do this renaming, though.

>Texfont generated a number of files and put them in several directories:
>- texnansi-softmaker-hudson.map in 
>J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\map\pdftex\context
>- texnansi-5hur.tfm in J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\tfm\softmaker\hudson
>- texnansi-5hur.vf in J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\vf\softmaker\hudson
>- 5hur.afm in J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\afm\softmaker\hudson
>- 5hur.pfb in J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\type1\softmaker\hudson
>
>Texfont also generated the following:
>D:\Fonts\hudson\hudson: texnansi-softmaker-hudson.log
>D:\Fonts\hudson\hudson: texnansi-softmaker-hudson.tex
>D:\Fonts\hudson\hudson: texnansi-softmaker-hudson.tmp
>D:\Fonts\hudson\hudson: texnansi-softmaker-hudson.pdf
>
>The pdf file does not show the hudson font - I wonder if it should.

It should. Do you have \autoloadmapfilestrue uncommented in your cont-
sys.tex file?
What errors come up in PDF creation? (you *do* use pdfetex as an engine,
right?)

>Perhaps I should mention that Texfont was interrupted; atf2tfm gets 
>stuck - a conflict with a dll, but if click on OK, nothing serious seems 
>to be the matter. The tfm file is generated after all. If I test afm2tfm 
>  without texfont, it works normally.

That interruption doesn't fill me with faith. Is the generated texnansi-
5hur.tfm from the texfont valid?

>I have a test file, which is called testhuds-con.tex.

it wasn't attached, in case that was your intention.
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Re: using fonts

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Wolfgang,

> I think I´mgetting confused with all of the font selection within context.

You are not the first one...

> First: I have a miktex environment on on W2K.

That should be OK for all needs.

> 1. to change single fonts:

see http://contextgarden.net/Psnfss

> \definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] [encoding=ec]
> \switchtotypeface[palatino][12pt,rm]

I have never used \switchtotypeface.

> 2.
> I thought that the default encoding should be texnansi

This depends on your setup. See cont-sys.tex as a place where
defaultencoding is sometimes set.

> 3.
> should be there some font-switching macros on the system called
> font-xxx.tex (example font-lbr.tex)? These are missing on my system.
> I think these are needed forthings like:
> \setupbodyfont[lbr, sans, 12pt]

Well the font-xxx.tex files have nothing (not completely true) to do
with the font switching commands.

> 4.
> within miktex there are "lucida" font files from yandy (lbr.tfm
> ). Is that a free version of lucida-font?

No. There is no really free version of lucida. They once came with
staroffice and there was a script that was able to pull them out and
make them accessable for TeX. But I think that the quality is lower
than the original ones (once read a statement from Walter Schmit about
them, don't remember when and where) and math is not included.

> (is that for math? [there is anotherfile called math-lbt.tex in
> \context\base])

No math fonts like lucida for free.


> do I need to get the missing fonts/files and why are they not
> provided with miktex. Perhaps a change of the distribution is to
> prefer? (which one)

No, go ahead with MikTeX. Try out the stuff that is on the wiki and
please report on your success/failure.

> Is there a manual which explains how to change fonts (in a way that a
> normal user who is new to context can understand it)?

yes and no. See the wiki for links.

Patrick
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Re: Re: using fonts

[Adam Lindsay]

Patrick Gundlach said this at Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:41:58 +0100:

>> \switchtotypeface[palatino][12pt,rm]
>
>I have never used \switchtotypeface.

\setuptypeface[palatino,12pt,rm]
is probably more appropriate here.
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Re: Re: using fonts -- installation

[Rob Ermers]

Dear friends,

Let's join the font discussion!

Two years ago I installed under latex an adapted cyrillic font family, 
along with a new encoding (which I named l2t.enc -- a variant of t2a), 
for  koi8 texts, which makes it possible to call special diacritics 
(like \cyrkdot) by means of regular input codes, such as \= and \d. (In 
this way the text can still be processed without the special font and 
its code, but looks less nice.) As anybody can imagine, it was the 
toughest latex thing I ever did, I guess, but it worked and still does.

I am telling you this because after this complicated job I have been 
trying several times to install a simple type 1 font under Context, the 
last time being two days ago, but without any success. (I got the same 
simple font working under latex, though.) I carefully read Adam's 'My 
Way' over and over again, but I cannot get it work in my system. I put 
all the files exactly on the indicated places! (Texfont is very handy, 
but it seems to me, that nevertheless mapping files are not found.) 
Could anybody give me, and some others, a hand?

The font is simply not recognised (log file message: bodyfont: unknown 
variant johanna). Of course, I am still miles away of getting my 
cyrillic font working under context...

Let's not take the font Palatino, because it's already there, but a 
simple font: say, johanna, which consists of two files:

johanna.pfb
johanna.afm.

Which concrete steps do we have to take to make johanna work under 
Context with Miktex? And, perhaps more important, where do I put my map 
files and font files, etc. so that they be recognised?
The next step would be the installation of a ttf font. After that a 
whole font family should not be that difficult anymore.

Thank you very much in advance!

Kind regards,

Robert Ermers

Re: Re: using fonts -- installation

[Adam Lindsay]

Rob Ermers said this at Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:30:22 +0100:

>The font is simply not recognised (log file message: bodyfont: unknown 
>variant johanna). Of course, I am still miles away of getting my 
>cyrillic font working under context...

Okay, that sounds odd. How do you define/use the font in ConTeXt?

>Let's not take the font Palatino, because it's already there, but a 
>simple font: say, johanna, which consists of two files:
>
>johanna.pfb
>johanna.afm.

Okay, stick those two files in a temp directory together. What happens with:
 texfont --make --install --co=johanna --ve=something --show

?

>Which concrete steps do we have to take to make johanna work under 
>Context with Miktex? 

as before, I don't know about MikTeX specifically...
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Re: Re: using fonts -- installation

[Rob Ermers]

Hi Adam,

Thanks for your quick reaction. Before ending this eventful day, I ran 
texexec as you suggested.

The font in question is Hudson (vendor=softmaker = Berry 5), for which I 
  invented the name 5hu (+r for roman). I have the two files 5hur.pdf 
and 5hur.afm.

Texfont generated a number of files and put them in several directories:
- texnansi-softmaker-hudson.map in 
J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\map\pdftex\context
- texnansi-5hur.tfm in J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\tfm\softmaker\hudson
- texnansi-5hur.vf in J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\vf\softmaker\hudson
- 5hur.afm in J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\afm\softmaker\hudson
- 5hur.pfb in J:\tex\localtexmf\fonts\type1\softmaker\hudson

Texfont also generated the following:
D:\Fonts\hudson\hudson: texnansi-softmaker-hudson.log
D:\Fonts\hudson\hudson: texnansi-softmaker-hudson.tex
D:\Fonts\hudson\hudson: texnansi-softmaker-hudson.tmp
D:\Fonts\hudson\hudson: texnansi-softmaker-hudson.pdf

The pdf file does not show the hudson font - I wonder if it should.

Perhaps I should mention that Texfont was interrupted; atf2tfm gets 
stuck - a conflict with a dll, but if click on OK, nothing serious seems 
to be the matter. The tfm file is generated after all. If I test afm2tfm 
  without texfont, it works normally.

I have a test file, which is called testhuds-con.tex.

Kind regards,

Robert

Re: Re: using fonts -- installation

[h h extern]

Adam Lindsay wrote:
> Rob Ermers said this at Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:30:22 +0100:
> 
> 
>>The font is simply not recognised (log file message: bodyfont: unknown 
>>variant johanna). Of course, I am still miles away of getting my 
>>cyrillic font working under context...

there is support for cyrillic in context but there are many encodings; i'm sure 
that there are users out there who can help

Hans

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Re: Re: using fonts -- installation

[h h extern]

Rob Ermers wrote:

> The font is simply not recognised (log file message: bodyfont: unknown 
> variant johanna). Of course, I am still miles away of getting my 
> cyrillic font working under context...

that message is an indication that you didn't define it as bodyfont

for instance:

   \definetypeface[johanna][rm][serif][palatino][default]

will provide

   \setupbodyfont[johanna,10pt,rm]

the combination [serif] [palatino] is the main typescript filter, while [rm] is 
what it gets mapped onto; [default] concerns the size

Hans


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Re: Re: using fonts -- installation

[Adam Lindsay]

Rob Ermers said this at Mon, 6 Dec 2004 22:30:22 +0100:

>The font is simply not recognised (log file message: bodyfont: unknown 
>variant johanna). Of course, I am still miles away of getting my 
>cyrillic font working under context...

Okay, that sounds odd. How do you define/use the font in ConTeXt?

>Let's not take the font Palatino, because it's already there, but a 
>simple font: say, johanna, which consists of two files:
>
>johanna.pfb
>johanna.afm.

Okay, stick those two files in a temp directory together. What happens with:
 texfont --make --install --co=johanna --ve=something --show

?

>Which concrete steps do we have to take to make johanna work under 
>Context with Miktex? 

as before, I don't know about MikTeX specifically...
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